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Top amputation surgeon had own legs removed due to fetish. Were patients safe?

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Re: Top amputation surgeon had own legs removed due to fetish. Were patients safe?

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post #5

I don't know why the framing. This is easy: review the cases. If it has his hand it's tainted one way or the other. That's it.

How is it tainted by that alone? It’s almost certain that at least some of the patients he amputated actually needed amputation.

It doesn't automatically condemn him but it will probably trigger some kind of independent review of his cases. Better hope it's a perfect record.

Re: Top amputation surgeon had own legs removed due to fetish. Were patients safe?

#32

Where is the line between fetish and mental illness??? Why is it that if someone wants to cut off their own healthy limbs, we are calling this a fetish rather than saying what it is, a mental illness. No rationale human being would want this done. And before people state that there are many fetishes and that people have the right to have them, if any of you had a friend that wanted this done, you would take them to a…

> Where is the line between fetish and mental illness

In general, the DSM V draws the line at hurting yourself or other people.

Re: Top amputation surgeon had own legs removed due to fetish. Were patients safe?

#33
post #8

There is probably some correlation between one's profession and fetishes. We already know some programming languages attract certain types of personalities/attitudes so why would that be different elsewhere?

> We already know some programming languages attract certain types of personalities/attitudes

... to say nothing of the monsters that use spaces instead of tabs ;)

Re: Top amputation surgeon had own legs removed due to fetish. Were patients safe?

#34
post #7
post #3

Why do I care if someone wants to amputate their own legs? The only issue here is the insurance fraud, if that happened.

Because it's a sign that he may have been amputating other people's limbs when not medically necessary.

Or making necessary operations be unnecessarily long, painful, and unsuccessful. I think the anecdotes point to that at least.

Re: Top amputation surgeon had own legs removed due to fetish. Were patients safe?

#35
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Admittedly I'm not sure how an amputation fetish works. I don't know if it's about the act of amputation itself or if he liked looking at amputee porn, for example. Like someone might have a humiliation fetish but not actually like seeing people get humiliated in the workplace, for example. A sexual context and an everyday context are very different.

The plainspoken doubt being expressed indirectly / by-analogy here is: “Was their professional judgment impaired by their fetish?” That concern is the correct one. But: It doesn’t particularly matter how the fetish works, because people will assume that the existence of a fetish guarantees that judgment is compromised. That assumption will often be couched in terms of skepticism and doubt rather than as a flat statem…

Wait until you find out who helped write the guidelines for those "dysphoria-treating surgeries"...

https://reduxx.info/top-trans-medical-association-collaborat...

Re: Top amputation surgeon had own legs removed due to fetish. Were patients safe?

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The plainspoken doubt being expressed indirectly / by-analogy here is: “Was their professional judgment impaired by their fetish?” That concern is the correct one. But: It doesn’t particularly matter how the fetish works, because people will assume that the existence of a fetish guarantees that judgment is compromised. That assumption will often be couched in terms of skepticism and doubt rather than as a flat statem…

Wait until you find out who helped write the guidelines for those "dysphoria-treating surgeries"... https://reduxx.info/top-trans-medical-association-collaborat...

I wasn’t talking specifically about trans dysphoria above, but having had to navigate those guidelines personally, I can certainly attest that they prioritized societal fertility over the needs of US patients. Fourteen letters of approval and two years and $25,000 of professional consulting required (at US cash rates before insurance) to receive a single body edit out of the four required. Cis women who aren’t even trans at all can get next-day breast inflation but must pursue months of paperwork and approvals for breast deflation (and the exact opposite for cis men, too). Tattoos are walk-in and don’t always have sobriety requirements. Religious body edits that permanently impair sexual function are routinely performed at birth without the consent of, and sometimes over the objections of, the newborn’s parents. (This is not a comprehensive list of US body editing biases, just some highlights as examples.)

Point being, cultural biases are reflected in body edit difficulties, and each culture has their own biases and stupidities. That should not prevent us from aspiring towards a better future, where body edits are uniformly treated with care, caution, and consent — rather than varying degrees condescension and Gilliam’s “Brazil” levels of bureaucratic bullshit and bribes: https://youtu.be/VveTsyjFlNA

This article may have done a terrible job at advancing any useful goals in the field of body editing, but the headline sure is some top-shelf clickbait.

Re: Top amputation surgeon had own legs removed due to fetish. Were patients safe?

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Where is the line between fetish and mental illness??? Why is it that if someone wants to cut off their own healthy limbs, we are calling this a fetish rather than saying what it is, a mental illness. No rationale human being would want this done. And before people state that there are many fetishes and that people have the right to have them, if any of you had a friend that wanted this done, you would take them to a…

> Why is it that if someone wants to cut off their own healthy limbs, we are calling this a fetish rather than saying what it is, a mental illness.

I do call it a mental illness. If I came across someone that wants to amputate a healthy limb, I'd tell them they're mentally ill and need professional help. Most amputees I know feel the same way. As an amputee (RBKA, due to necrotizing fasciitis and sepsis), -I know a number of amputees and none have "wanted' to be an amputee.

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