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Re: Google fixed more Chrome bugs in June than over the past two years, thanks to AI

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Post by whytevuhuni » Sat, Aug 01, 2026, 5:05 PM UTC

stodor89 wrote: post #523

gtowey wrote: post #414

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I'll await your Rust ports of Windows, Linux and MacOS then. This isn't really a fair take. Keep in mind that C/C++ has been the backbone of the most important software in the world since the 1970s. At that time we didn't have virtually unlimited compute and memory at our fingertips the way we do now. It was a huge improvement to have a high level language which still could be optimized nearly as well as assembly. It…

> I'll await your Rust ports of Windows, Linux and MacOS then. Unironically this. Like most game developers, I was extremely sceptical of Rust, based on opinions I've read on the internet. Ugliest syntax I've ever seen, and "safety" features are irrelevant and just get in my way. Compile times are glacial. Tons of direct and indirect dependencies needed. But then I got to use it professionally for a year or so, and I…

The Blub Paradox [1].

Granted I doubt how true that is, I always understood the benefits of languages like Haskell and Ada/SPARK, it's just that pragmatically speaking I want beginners in my team to be able to code too.

[1] https://wiki.c2.com/?BlubParadox

Re: Google fixed more Chrome bugs in June than over the past two years, thanks to AI

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Post by zahlman » Sat, Aug 01, 2026, 5:10 PM UTC

majormajor wrote: post #356

harrall wrote: post #326

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If I were to be real, my coworkers that post AI responses straight rarely had insightful comments before AI.

> If I were to be real, my coworkers that post AI responses straight rarely had insightful comments before AI. There's never been a shortage of low-value coworkers because hiring is hard and firing is unpleasant and painful in many ways. But there's a weird phenomenon with AI where a lot of people are using it to actively call attention to the fact that they aren't doing anything but call the tools. Rarely in the pas…

> Rarely in the past have the I-just-want-to-coast-doing-the-minimum folks called so much attention to it!

You seem to presume that they realize they're calling attention to it.

On Stack Overflow, there was this phenomenon for a while where people would blatantly copy and paste answers from ChatGPT, have them deleted, and then run to the meta site to complain. The complaint would either be in barely comprehensible broken English or in recognizable ChatGPT-ese. It would involve swearing up and down that no LLM assistance had been used. Looking at the user's history would reveal a gap of several years of not answering questions, and then the old answers would have the same barely comprehensible broken English (and often not be very good technically, either). The OP demonstrated a genuine complete inability to understand how obvious the ChatGPT use was.

This happened multiple times with different users.

Re: Google fixed more Chrome bugs in June than over the past two years, thanks to AI

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Post by astrange » Sat, Aug 01, 2026, 5:10 PM UTC

Aeolos wrote: post #504

hn_submit wrote: post #461

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Why is everyone always referring to logic errors when pushing back against Rust? No programming language ever invented (or to be invented) will fix logic errors made by developers . Logic errors are "out of scope" for Rust or any other programming language.

The Rust type system helps you catch logic errors at compile time. Same with Haskell or Ocaml.

Note: when people say this about Haskell they mean "it has ADTs".

Re: Google fixed more Chrome bugs in June than over the past two years, thanks to AI

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Post by sitzkrieg » Sat, Aug 01, 2026, 5:18 PM UTC

xigoi wrote: post #567

sitzkrieg wrote: post #451

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yea, we certainly wouldn’t want regular user applications to run fast or respect user resources. can’t have that

You can have that without writing them in C or C++.

you sure can. i recommend forth

Re: Google fixed more Chrome bugs in June than over the past two years, thanks to AI

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Post by sitzkrieg » Sat, Aug 01, 2026, 5:22 PM UTC

fennecbutt wrote: post #578

Matheus28 wrote: post #512

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I’ll take a Qt application over the Electron garbage that we see all the time nowadays.

10-100x develop & maintain cost.

good. browser uis always end up sucking more

Re: Google fixed more Chrome bugs in June than over the past two years, thanks to AI

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Post by gtowey » Sat, Aug 01, 2026, 5:37 PM UTC

KronisLV wrote: post #553

gtowey wrote: post #414

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I'll await your Rust ports of Windows, Linux and MacOS then. This isn't really a fair take. Keep in mind that C/C++ has been the backbone of the most important software in the world since the 1970s. At that time we didn't have virtually unlimited compute and memory at our fingertips the way we do now. It was a huge improvement to have a high level language which still could be optimized nearly as well as assembly. It…

> I'll await your Rust ports of Windows, Linux and MacOS then. I’d love to have that happen within the next century. I might not be around for it, but I’d say that humanity deserves software that has fewer memory issues.

The thing is, I'm not even against it. The point of the sarcasm was to say that the most massive projects on which everything is built are in C-flavored languages so the claim that it's not fit for large projects is absurd. And to say that replacing those foundations is going to take time. I would love memory safety in those, but it is going to take time to build something as battle-tested.

Re: Google fixed more Chrome bugs in June than over the past two years, thanks to AI

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Post by rustfreeforme » Sat, Aug 01, 2026, 6:48 PM UTC

whytevuhuni wrote: post #608

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Many Rust proponents are experienced C programmers (me as an example). We speak of the horrors of C/C++ precisely because we've seen both sides (3 sides more specifically), and can compare.

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Re: Google fixed more Chrome bugs in June than over the past two years, thanks to AI

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Post by rustfreeforme » Sat, Aug 01, 2026, 6:53 PM UTC

whytevuhuni wrote: post #607

rustfreeforme wrote: post #600

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Yes, except imagine the distance in correctness between Assembly and C, and triple it. Less so compared to C++ of course. The sentiment of "if it compiles it probably works" for languages like Rust and Haskell is there for a good reason.

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Re: Google fixed more Chrome bugs in June than over the past two years, thanks to AI

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Post by cyanydeez » Sat, Aug 01, 2026, 7:01 PM UTC

dpark wrote: post #477

cyanydeez wrote: post #438

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bike shedding is slop; you're arguing with some anchored semantics where culture, terms, etc are fluid. Can only assume english might not be your first language.

I hope this weird redefinition of bike shedding doesn’t take off. It’s a useful and meaningful term and repurposing it to mean AI slop is negative value. Thankfully until this thread I’d never seen anyone use the term this way. > Can only assume english might not be your first language. This not-subtle insult does not add anything here.

it's not an insult. Declaring this both a fixed context and definition for any given piece of language is typically related to language learners.

An insult would suggest it's also related to autism.

Re: Google fixed more Chrome bugs in June than over the past two years, thanks to AI

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Post by rpdillon » Sat, Aug 01, 2026, 8:17 PM UTC

lbrito wrote: post #511

rpdillon wrote: post #499

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Sure it is. It's just like the .com bust: people didn't know what the internet was good for, so they did a lot of stupid stuff with it before settling on the most interesting uses.

No, AI is more like: people do know what it is good for, but that's immaterial because hundreds of billions of dollars of debt were poured into it, such that the only glimmer of hope of getting an ROI out of it is force-feeding AI everywhere, good or bad, and normal people are sick of that.

That's fair. I still think there big similarities (people with money seeing it as the future and investing heavily, even if in reckless ways), but I agree there's a forcefulness to it this time that wasn't present before, for the reasons you outline.