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A directory of people who love RSS

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Re: A directory of people who love RSS

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Post by 8organicbits »

chrismorgan wrote: post #38

I hate RSS. It’s a bad format that developed organically in all the worst ways, and it should have died completely in favour of Atom by about twenty years ago. I started a draft describing some of the problems that actually matter (thing that can’t be represented reliably in RSS, and such) in https://chrismorgan.info/atom%3Erss >. And so I wish people would stop calling feeds RSS, because it continues to compound the…

I don't think this is helpful. The last statistic I saw put RSS at 77% of the web feed market share, higher than Atom. In the web feed market it isn't a protocol on the way out, its the dominant protocol.

While RSS is tricky to parse in practice, many of the challenges are due to invalid feeds, which Atom is not invulnerable to. Its very likely that there is a well-tested feed parser for your favorite programming language, so most developers using feed programmatically don't need to handle those challenges themselves.

For concerns like title encoding or summary vs full text description, you can handle those using namespaces. If you don't like any of the existing namespaces that do that you can create your own.

Re: A directory of people who love RSS

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Post by dd8601fn »

jjordan wrote: post #36

Wow, what timing. Not to shill, but I'm also nearly done building a directory of RSS feeds. It stemmed from a frustration of outdated and broken RSS feed collections, and the long slow death of the orange RSS subscribe button across the web. I'm not officially launched yet but I would love some feedback and maybe some of the RSS feeds that land in your directory can be added to mine. https://rssvault.org Password is…

Claude?

(Not judging, just testing my radar)

Re: A directory of people who love RSS

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Post by jjordan »

sixtyj wrote: post #54
jjordan wrote: post #36

Wow, what timing. Not to shill, but I'm also nearly done building a directory of RSS feeds. It stemmed from a frustration of outdated and broken RSS feed collections, and the long slow death of the orange RSS subscribe button across the web. I'm not officially launched yet but I would love some feedback and maybe some of the RSS feeds that land in your directory can be added to mine. https://rssvault.org Password is…

Nice. I have sneaked in. Suggestions: White or almost white text would be better. Make “Add” button visible on homepage. Make a possibility to batch suggest feeds - a lot of people have opml xml exports from Google Reader so they can give it to you. Processing info would be nice so I as a supplier would immediately know how useful I was. Move explanatory part of RSS to some other part than homepage.

Hey thanks for taking the time.

"White or almost white text would be better." -- There is some white text, headers and headlines mostly. Did you find the lack of contrast difficult to deal with?

"Make “Add” button visible on homepage." -- you mean like in the search results? That's a fine idea.

"Make a possibility to batch suggest feeds" -- I've been toying with how to handle OPML imports. Definitely a feature to come on the app, but I fear with mass submission on the vault I would be inundated with feeds, and the curation aspect would suffer. I want quality over quantity. But maybe there's a happy middle ground somewhere.

"Move explanatory part of RSS to some other part" -- yeah I guess this might be helpful to someone who doesn't know what RSS is, but then they probably aren't visiting anyway lol I'll give it some thought.

Appreciate it. Thanks again.

Re: A directory of people who love RSS

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Post by jjordan »

dd8601fn wrote: post #63
jjordan wrote: post #36

Wow, what timing. Not to shill, but I'm also nearly done building a directory of RSS feeds. It stemmed from a frustration of outdated and broken RSS feed collections, and the long slow death of the orange RSS subscribe button across the web. I'm not officially launched yet but I would love some feedback and maybe some of the RSS feeds that land in your directory can be added to mine. https://rssvault.org Password is…

Claude? (Not judging, just testing my radar)

Yes, with several months of iteration. I've wanted to build this for years but to get it to the point where it's a quality destination is an effort beyond the time I would have been able to contribute.

Re: A directory of people who love RSS

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Post by dgellow »

F3nd0 wrote: post #40
prmoustache wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is not an emoji but a unicode character and HN doesn't render it, your OS does.

It may not be in the Emoji character block formally, but casually speaking it’s not wrong to call it an emoji, since emoji is basically just a picture character, and this is no less a picture character than what’s formally codified as ‘Emoji’ in the Unicode standard.

In addition to this, what I meant to convey is that it does show exactly like the iOS/iPadOS emojis, in color, with details, etc. Not the non-emoji font unicode character

Re: A directory of people who love RSS

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Post by ymolodtsov »

F3nd0 wrote: post #49
dewey wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having structured feeds of any kind is already a niche and much appreciated when it happens. How to call them correctly technically based on some specs is not the hill to die on. We call them RSS feeds, RSS reader apps even if it might be implemented as an Atom feed.

I have trouble seeing how that helps anyone. It’s not like ‘RSS’ is a widespread term the way ‘Word’ or even ‘Mastodon’ are (and even there I’d argue it’s worthwhile to use technically more correct terms). Why not just use ‘news feed’ as the general term? If you don’t care about the protocol in the first place, that’s far more descriptive and correct, no?

RSS is the only widespread enough name for this thing. Where you're correct is that it's silly to argue about the name of the format used by approximately three people.

I'm not too serious here but even many news media publications are just dropping it, or separate into dozens of unconnected feeds.

Re: A directory of people who love RSS

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Post by rambambram »

mickeyp wrote: post #25

I love RSS but what I love more than RSS are people who blog about stuff: high concept stuff, day-to-day stuff and just what they did yesterday. I wish people would blog more like in the old days.

Indeed! I have a selfbuilt RSS reader and interesting blogs without a feed are just saved as a bookmark basically.

I care more about the stories (people call it 'content' nowadays) than about the tech, as long as the tech is open.

Re: A directory of people who love RSS

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Post by dgellow »

RattlesnakeJake wrote: post #33
ninjahawk1 wrote: post #21

seeing an emoji in a title on HN really surprised me, I didn’t even know you could do that. Shows how much emotion we use on here lol.

The last time I tried to use one in a comment, it got stripped out. I guess that doesn't apply to submission titles.

It's generally does!
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