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A Surveillance Treaty in Disguise: Canada Signs UN Cybercrime Convention

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Re: A Surveillance Treaty in Disguise: Canada Signs UN Cybercrime Convention

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About "cybercrime" in general my feeling is there is a status quo between the criminals and countries. Something like we do not take down your economy and you do not go after us. I know for a fact that even the most powerful organizations are powerless to have some relatively unsophisticated group caught and put behind bar. The idea we would need conventions to start acting is a joke.

Distantly related: similar to the local councils here in the UK that don't go after the obvious and prolific drug-front barbers and takeaways, because they pay business rates (local business tax) and probably employee taxes too for just enough staff for it to be believable.

Re: A Surveillance Treaty in Disguise: Canada Signs UN Cybercrime Convention

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This post is inaccurate at its face but for those who are curious, Canada's GDP is in the low trillions of USD and its growth stagnated (but remained positive) the past several months. By contrast, several US states like Vermont and Alaska have GDP in the double digit billions, while others like South Dakota and Nebraska shrunk.

Did you not see the footnotes?

edit: okay I see the post got flagged even when evidence was provided.

Re: A Surveillance Treaty in Disguise: Canada Signs UN Cybercrime Convention

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I'm not sure whether your "adversary determined to reclaim its own lands" is Europe's adversary (Russia, wanting to take Ukraine) or Canada's adversary (the United States, wanting to take Canada) but in neither case does "its own lands" seem like a reasonable description of what it is they want. And from where I'm sitting (in the UK, so I don't have a front-seat view of any of this) it seems as if "it's pissed off it…

Did you think Canada was attached to Europe or something ?

Re: A Surveillance Treaty in Disguise: Canada Signs UN Cybercrime Convention

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Canada's GDP per capita is low, not its GDP.

The GDP per capita is just low compared to the US. It's roughly the same as the UK. And I do think there are some ridiculous inter-provincial bureaucracy issues in Canada, it's hard to take OP's generalized rant seriously.

I added evidence and footnotes but the post got flagged. Which part of those facts did you want to refute?

Re: A Surveillance Treaty in Disguise: Canada Signs UN Cybercrime Convention

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Canada is so lucky to have someone like Michael Geist. He's been reporting on and doing in depth investigations on privacy invasions for about 2 decades now.

It would be luckier if the government actually listened to him.

Re: A Surveillance Treaty in Disguise: Canada Signs UN Cybercrime Convention

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I agree this is the case, I think this is a consequence of low education for the general public and low quality of the public discourse. If the quality of those two goes up, then WYSIWYG politics will emerge as a preferred choice. I only wish I knew of possible ways for us to get there :(

Ive noticed that when people say we need more education or we need to teach critical thinking or something like that often what they really mean is "It is obvious my position is the intelligent one and those who have a different position are ignorant and foolish and if they just knew more, or were smarter they'd obviously really then superiority of what I advocate for over whatever they believe now." Which is just th…

What if the people who are part of the problem are people who point out the people who are part of the problem? What if there isn’t an actual problem beyond that? Like, things are, you know, just okay?

Re: A Surveillance Treaty in Disguise: Canada Signs UN Cybercrime Convention

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post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is GP running for political office here on HN or something? Otherwise I can't really see your point.

Well, without a public identity we cannot know, they could be running for their local elections

Full disclosure: my name is Chip Dipson and I’m running for TV Remote Comptroller in the living room.

I’m running on a campaign of “PUT IT THE %#^* BACK IN THE SAME PLACE EVERY TIME WHEN YOU’RE DONE WITH IT.”

Re: A Surveillance Treaty in Disguise: Canada Signs UN Cybercrime Convention

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Have you ever actually been to Canada? It's quite nice, pretty clean and safe, feels fairly functional, people are totally different to Americans (in a very good way). Hard to judge based on short trips/holidays and not living there but my immediate impression coming from south east England was how pleasant everyone was and that everyone seemed pretty happy instead of being depressed, so that was nice

A short trip/holiday to any country will never give you the full dynamics of a country.

I've lived in Toronto and Montreal for a bit. It's very palpable how demoralized Canadians are once you spend some time there.

Don't mistake politeness/friendliness for closeness.

Re: A Surveillance Treaty in Disguise: Canada Signs UN Cybercrime Convention

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It feels like there’s this weird layer to domestic and international politics where you do a lot of signalling to one audience while simultaneously winking at other audiences that you’re not actually serious. (I can never tell who is getting winked at…) I feel like WYSIWYG politics is what most of us want, but probably doesn’t actually work. The Ned Stark character that is righteous and right and quickly meets the he…

While I agree this is the case, I think this is a consequence of low education for the general public and low quality of the public discourse. If the quality of those two goes up, then WYSIWYG politics will emerge as a preferred choice. I only wish I knew of possible ways for us to get there :(

I think it’s more a consequence of the wealthy elites being one hundred percent comfortable with lying to get their way and not caring for the reaction from the rest of us. You know, sociopaths.
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