the git protocol has been federated and self-hostable since 2005. the part where a stranger finds your repo and stars it has not
GitHub has alternatives, but no replacement
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Re: GitHub has alternatives, but no replacement
#72Codeberg is a perfect drop-in 1:1 replacement. I find this article to be pretentious nonsense.
Codeberg recently made HN very angry by banning vibecoded projects. It's opinionated. GitHub isn't.
Github is opinionated.
I recall some time in 2016 when they were regex replacing variable names in peoples repositories and pestering them if they didn’t accept the request.
They also worked very hard to change the default branch name for everyone, eventually compromising.
Github definitely has opinions, they might align with yours, for now.
Re: GitHub has alternatives, but no replacement
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
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I don't know why you censored "underage". People are weird. Anyway, the only source I've really heard trying to make Devault a sex-pest comes from Bryan Lunduke, who's an idiot that isn't opposed to embellishing or flatout lying about people he doesn't like, so I am afraid that I'm skeptical of that claim.
I always confuse him with DHH. Apologies to DeVault.
Re: GitHub has alternatives, but no replacement
#74As a maintainer of an open source project I largely care about CI, discoverability on the web, and the sign up burden being small so that issues continue to be reported. I think Radicle and Tangled are probably the future in that way. Tangled needs to support private repositories and Radicle needs a real CI solution. We're not far off from either.
Re: GitHub has alternatives, but no replacement
#756 Years later, a priceless comment and aged like fine pristine wine. [0]
The time to self-host over GitHub is now since they do not even have a CEO of GitHub anymore to help.
Re: GitHub has alternatives, but no replacement
#76Running a git forge is easy, I find the social coding/network effect the stickiest part of GitHub. I want my code to be discoverable, and I want to discover others' code. I wanted to leave GitHub but I'm still stuck there. What it would take for me to finally leave is some kind of federation of the social features, so I can port my stars over, see what others are working on, etc.
How much do you actually use social features of GitHub besides bug reporting? Your stars list is browser bookmarks. You can see what others are doing even if you don't have accounts on their sites.
>You can see what others are doing even if you don't have accounts on their sites
Not practically. That works up to a number like three. Are you really going to manually poll every account you care about?
Re: GitHub has alternatives, but no replacement
#77Github is not something that should be replaced. Rather, a different kind of model needs to exist. Before Git, there were things like Subversion, for instance. All of that slowed way down after Git showed up to the party because people liked the fact Git was "easier to use" and eventually networking effects. When Microsoft purchased Git, the death knell had all ready sounded, but nobody was listening.
I've recently seen https://v-it.org/, although the naming ("social software") is strange, the idea seems to be great: automatically maintain your own feature set of the software even if not all of the features are present in the mainline.
Re: GitHub has alternatives, but no replacement
#78If your a small company developing something closed source is there any reason to use GitHub over just setting up a git infrastructure on your private server?
Brand loyalty.
Re: GitHub has alternatives, but no replacement
#79Running a git forge is easy, I find the social coding/network effect the stickiest part of GitHub. I want my code to be discoverable, and I want to discover others' code. I wanted to leave GitHub but I'm still stuck there. What it would take for me to finally leave is some kind of federation of the social features, so I can port my stars over, see what others are working on, etc.
Are we using GitHub differently? I don’t understand how the social network part of GitHub has to do with having your code discoverable and to discover. I’ve never stumbled upon a project by browsing GitHub casually. It’s always through finding the product first and trying to find the source code. If the source code is on some other website, I’ll probably figure it out, but it’s be a new muscle. Same with making an is…
You've have never typed: language, project type into the search bar and found countless projects and reviewed a few to find something that matches what you wanted. You've never clicked on who someone is following and found really cool repos? I'm always surprised by the useful projects I never thought would exist.
Re: GitHub has alternatives, but no replacement
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The issue isn't the technology (git, subversion, cvs, etc), it's that developers FOMO and glom on to what every other developer uses so you end up with these huge silos that they inevitably complain about.
But WHY they glom on to it and not say, Subversion is my point. We can imagine an alternative world in which Subversion mutated into something more like Git. Why doesn't it exist? Because Git came in and everyone decided it was "the answer to all things".
There's a mercurial, a very similar idea built in a very similar times. It was supported by BitBucket until recently.