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A Surveillance Treaty in Disguise: Canada Signs UN Cybercrime Convention

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Re: A Surveillance Treaty in Disguise: Canada Signs UN Cybercrime Convention

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When are we going to see substantive legislation advancing digital rights instead of chipping away at them?

For the US, we need a new bill of rights, a bill of digital rights that constitutionally protects right of repair, right to root our own devices, right to be free from dragnet surveillance, right to general purpose computing, and the right to access speech without government-mandated age or identity checks.

With all the libertarian millionaires and billionaires swirling around silicon valley and the venture capital space, why can't we make that happen?

Re: A Surveillance Treaty in Disguise: Canada Signs UN Cybercrime Convention

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So has Australia, the EU, and the UK [0]. That said, being a signatory has limited impact as long as it isn't ratified. [0] - https://treaties.un.org/pages/ViewDetails.aspx?src=TREATY&mt...

> the EU, and the UK

The EU has their own cybercrime treaty: https://commission.europa.eu/law/cross-border-cases/judicial...

But you'll never hear a peep from "no logs at all costs" VPN companies based in the EU.

Re: A Surveillance Treaty in Disguise: Canada Signs UN Cybercrime Convention

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It feels like there’s this weird layer to domestic and international politics where you do a lot of signalling to one audience while simultaneously winking at other audiences that you’re not actually serious. (I can never tell who is getting winked at…)

I feel like WYSIWYG politics is what most of us want, but probably doesn’t actually work. The Ned Stark character that is righteous and right and quickly meets the headman’s axe of the game theory and brinksmanship of everyone else.

Re: A Surveillance Treaty in Disguise: Canada Signs UN Cybercrime Convention

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When are we going to see substantive legislation advancing digital rights instead of chipping away at them? For the US, we need a new bill of rights, a bill of digital rights that constitutionally protects right of repair, right to root our own devices, right to be free from dragnet surveillance, right to general purpose computing, and the right to access speech without government-mandated age or identity checks. Wit…

Because libertarians generally want fewer laws, not more.

Re: A Surveillance Treaty in Disguise: Canada Signs UN Cybercrime Convention

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When are we going to see substantive legislation advancing digital rights instead of chipping away at them? For the US, we need a new bill of rights, a bill of digital rights that constitutionally protects right of repair, right to root our own devices, right to be free from dragnet surveillance, right to general purpose computing, and the right to access speech without government-mandated age or identity checks. Wit…

> … why can't we make that happen?

Greed. More money to provide the tools of oppression via government contracts.

Re: A Surveillance Treaty in Disguise: Canada Signs UN Cybercrime Convention

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When are we going to see substantive legislation advancing digital rights instead of chipping away at them? For the US, we need a new bill of rights, a bill of digital rights that constitutionally protects right of repair, right to root our own devices, right to be free from dragnet surveillance, right to general purpose computing, and the right to access speech without government-mandated age or identity checks. Wit…

Thomas Massie introduced the best privacy bill I have seen. I know nothing about political strategy but i would think a democrat would have been a better cosponsor. Will it even get voted on if the house speaker doesn't want it?

https://www.surveillanceaccountability.com/

>Warrant required Government must go before a judge to access your metadata, location, or financial records — just like searching your home.

>No Data Shopping Agencies can no longer simply purchase data from brokers to bypass the warrant process.

>Face recognition banned Warrantless facial recognition and AI biometric surveillance in public spaces is prohibited.

>You Can Sue Private right of action means if the government violates your rights, you have legal recourse.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/8470...

Re: A Surveillance Treaty in Disguise: Canada Signs UN Cybercrime Convention

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So has Australia, the EU, and the UK [0]. That said, being a signatory has limited impact as long as it isn't ratified. [0] - https://treaties.un.org/pages/ViewDetails.aspx?src=TREATY&mt...

> the EU, and the UK The EU has their own cybercrime treaty: https://commission.europa.eu/law/cross-border-cases/judicial... But you'll never hear a peep from "no logs at all costs" VPN companies based in the EU.

E-Evidence sharing is just a subset of the broader UN Cybercrime treaty which has been signed.

Re: A Surveillance Treaty in Disguise: Canada Signs UN Cybercrime Convention

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post #6

When are we going to see substantive legislation advancing digital rights instead of chipping away at them? For the US, we need a new bill of rights, a bill of digital rights that constitutionally protects right of repair, right to root our own devices, right to be free from dragnet surveillance, right to general purpose computing, and the right to access speech without government-mandated age or identity checks. Wit…

Because libertarians generally want fewer laws, not more.

And there are far too few of them elected to have any real impact.
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