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Firefighter arson a long-standing issue – expert

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Re: Firefighter arson a long-standing issue – expert

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Most guys that go into firefighting really enjoy looking at fire, I can say that much. And this problem exists globally.

Maybe we can also ask why women don't join to fight fires and there's 10% or less participation. Compared to police forces globally there's under 10% female firefighters but around 30% female police officers, so it's not as simple as "it's dangerous and women are afraid".

Re: Firefighter arson a long-standing issue – expert

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Australia gets very dry and pretty severe bush fires. We have the same unfortunate phenomena, 2019, 2023 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-31/hunter-valley-rfs-fir... There is a hero complex associated with this type of occupation, coupled with boredom perhaps. This is however not recurring theme, an anomaly in the statistics. Year on year we do have many brave, volunteer and professional firefighters rescue many p…

> Australia gets very dry and pretty severe bush fires. We have the same unfortunate phenomena, 2019

2019 was an American right wing/Facebook/Twitter job to downplay climate change and instead push the narrative that it was all done by arsonists

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-08/fires-misinformation-...

He said the topic appeared to be attracting a "suspiciously high number of bot-like and troll-like accounts".

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Sad to see that American narrative about Australia still being spread

Re: Firefighter arson a long-standing issue – expert

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I’m curious what other professions have analogous issues. Police who seed crime? (Surely.) Developers who insert bugs?

Cybersecurity researchers who let loose worms or ransomware?

Car mechanics who break things so you come back for more business?

Airline pilots who... hijack their own flight?... Hm

Re: Firefighter arson a long-standing issue – expert

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I’m curious what other professions have analogous issues. Police who seed crime? (Surely.) Developers who insert bugs?

Maybe politicians. They try to stage violent attacks against themselves and then accuse other parties for their own political gain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag

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I’m curious what other professions have analogous issues. Police who seed crime? (Surely.) Developers who insert bugs?

Tire dealers that go around puncturing tires has been a urban legend for decades

That would be an expensive way to drum up business.

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I looked it up: About a million firefighters in the US, including volunteer firefighters. Having 1 in 10,000 of them convicted of arson each year is a wild statistic.

This is the fact that’s literally a .0001% chance

.01%

Re: Firefighter arson a long-standing issue – expert

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Key information: There’s roughly 100 firefighter arsonists convicted every year in North America and all of them are serial arsonists, which means three or more fires,” Nordskog told CBC. According to Nordskog, firefighter arsonists tend to be young males who recently joined the fire service, who may become bored, desire recognition and struggle with anger or frustration. All things considered, it’s probably a smalle…

This may also be subject to survivorship bias, and there may be a portion of firefighter arsonists who escape prosecution or conviction

Re: Firefighter arson a long-standing issue – expert

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I’m curious what other professions have analogous issues. Police who seed crime? (Surely.) Developers who insert bugs?

20y ago in Poland there was a huge story where the ER responders were killing people to sell hints to a funeral house. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_Hunters

Re: Firefighter arson a long-standing issue – expert

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Key information: There’s roughly 100 firefighter arsonists convicted every year in North America and all of them are serial arsonists, which means three or more fires,” Nordskog told CBC. According to Nordskog, firefighter arsonists tend to be young males who recently joined the fire service, who may become bored, desire recognition and struggle with anger or frustration. All things considered, it’s probably a smalle…

I don't think you can extrapolate it to every profession lol. Even in your example, doctors and cops face much more scrutiny and doing an "undoctor" thing can mean your career is gone. It is far easier for them to comit arson tbh than do the equivalent opposite of their profession's general aims
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