In the UK if you're in an Airport officers can question you without requiring reasonable suspicion and you must answer their questions and give them access to your devices or face charges...
Everything that happens in a US airport is under duress
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#12Can someone from the US explain why this is being upvoted, isn't this normal? In the UK if you're in an Airport officers can question you without requiring reasonable suspicion and you must answer their questions and give them access to your devices or face charges...
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#13One, not a US thing. Two, the US Constitution is, despite the hyperbole. Ignorance is bliss. Americans know because we can access our US court decisions, unlike any other country in the world. (Thanks be to CourtListener and other predecessors.) The "North Koreans have more rights, look it's right there in black letter law" is laughable, despite being repeated nonstop by cough some sectors of society cough since Sovi…
This is not a uniquely US thing?
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#14I don't suppose you've actually, you know, read the constitution? If so, I'd be fascinated to hear about which parts pertain to, or don't apply at airports that should? The main thing people seem to find difficult to comprehend is that planes owned by airlines are the private property of the airline. You're pretty much welcome to buy your own plane, and use it to carry anyone and anything you want, but if you want to…
Sure, planes are private property. The airport is not. Airports are government property. And when I'm, for example, going through TSA, I'm not doing so on a plane, but rather in the airport.
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#15One, not a US thing. Two, the US Constitution is, despite the hyperbole. Ignorance is bliss. Americans know because we can access our US court decisions, unlike any other country in the world. (Thanks be to CourtListener and other predecessors.) The "North Koreans have more rights, look it's right there in black letter law" is laughable, despite being repeated nonstop by cough some sectors of society cough since Sovi…
> Americans know because we can access our US court decisions, unlike any other country in the world. This is not a uniquely US thing?
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#16I believe this is correct, but at the airport you're really faced with the reality of the situation. Everywhere else, the same mechanisms exist 'under the sheets', but there's a thin veneer of society pasted over the machine.
Are we comparing USA to other countries and saying America should be held to their standards? or is USA the strongest, most worked on Constitution in the world and what happens with it is what is important?
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#17The TSA does seem like security theater, and is annoying, but I’ve never had an automatic weapon carelessly pointed at my head in a US airport.
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#18Can someone from the US explain why this is being upvoted, isn't this normal? In the UK if you're in an Airport officers can question you without requiring reasonable suspicion and you must answer their questions and give them access to your devices or face charges...
I want to describe it as Americans arguing with Americans and others about American things. These details under discussion we share with England (incl. Wales if you recognize the Laws in Wales Acts as including some separate place).
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Americans know because we can access our US court decisions, unlike any other country in the world. This is not a uniquely US thing?
It is. From long, long ago.
The chances are not very high that you are well-versed in how all the other countries in the world work. Whenever you think something is unique, it is quite likely that you will be wrong.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is. From long, long ago.
I can access court decisions just fine and I'm not in the US, so no. It's not. The chances are not very high that you are well-versed in how all the other countries in the world work. Whenever you think something is unique, it is quite likely that you will be wrong.
Can you tell that to ask the Europeans that constantly cry "only in America" about every little thing?