That Viral Photo of San Francisco NIMBYs Shows Why Housing Is Winning
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That Viral Photo of San Francisco NIMBYs Shows Why Housing Is Winning
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Re: That Viral Photo of San Francisco NIMBYs Shows Why Housing Is Winning
#2Yes, it's disgusting that the people who show up to meetings match the demographics of the neighborhood. Why aren't there more rich immigrants and purple-haired bearded programmers who moved there from the Midwest a year and a half ago?
Those 80 year-olds are going to hold onto their homes for decades!
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#3Zoning only exists because of racism and classism, remember this. After Buchanan v. Warley in 1917, municipalities turned to race-neutral tools like single-family zoning, minimum lot sizes, and setback requirements to indirectly enforce economic and racial segregation. These land-use controls acted as proxies, allowing communities to maintain exclusionary barriers under the guise of local police powers and neighborhood character.
There’s a reason all the people at these things are in the same socioeconomic demographic
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#4Yes, it's disgusting that the people who show up to meetings match the demographics of the neighborhood. Why aren't there more rich immigrants and purple-haired bearded programmers who moved there from the Midwest a year and a half ago? Those 80 year-olds are going to hold onto their homes for decades!
Maybe not, but decades from now those same homes will be held onto by 80 year-olds.
If this is a problem that solves itself, it would have solved itself already.
Re: That Viral Photo of San Francisco NIMBYs Shows Why Housing Is Winning
#5Put a 22 story building on the site of the Marina Safeway? Ugh.
Besides, most of the jobs in SF will be done by AI soon. Look what's happening to SOMA.
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#6Yes, it's disgusting that the people who show up to meetings match the demographics of the neighborhood. Why aren't there more rich immigrants and purple-haired bearded programmers who moved there from the Midwest a year and a half ago? Those 80 year-olds are going to hold onto their homes for decades!
Maybe not, but decades from now those same homes will be held onto by 80 year-olds. If this is a problem that solves itself, it would have solved itself already.
what exactly do you think the problem is?
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#7I think it’s perfectly reasonable to be upset if someone wants to build a 25 story high-rise next to your longtime home. That can turn a calm area into one with years of noisy construction, construction traffic, more normal traffic once it’s built, and potentially put your backyard in its shadow.
I’m not sure how property taxes work in California, but in my state the increases are capped each year and are reassessed when a home is bought by a new owner. So telling them to move somewhere else not only hurts their ability to age in place, but could also have a significant impact on property taxes, to the point they may not be able to afford the move if on a fixed income… at least not within the area they call home.
I find it interesting how excited YIMBY people get about making people feel like they’re no longer welcome in their own neighborhoods. They seem to claim to have all this empathy, yet they can’t seem to put themselves in the shoes of one of these home owners.
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#8I thought this footnote from the bottom of the article was interesting:
“When I consider the structure of power in American politics, it often cleaves along lines that have nothing to do with being a billionaire. Homeowners dominate land use politics, professional associations capture licensing rules, industry representatives shape low-salience regulations on their issues because few other people care enough to engage. All of this can produce profoundly unequal outcomes without being the work of a coherent oligarchic class.”
Re: That Viral Photo of San Francisco NIMBYs Shows Why Housing Is Winning
#9I think it’s perfectly reasonable to be upset if someone wants to build a 25 story high-rise next to your longtime home. That can turn a calm area into one with years of noisy construction, construction traffic, more normal traffic once it’s built, and potentially put your backyard in its shadow. I’m not sure how property taxes work in California, but in my state the increases are capped each year and are reassessed…
I think it's reasonable for the existing residents to be upset. I just don't think they should get an effective veto on new housing construction in some of the most in-demand places to live in the entire country. There are far more pressing national needs than the ability of retirees to freeze their neighbourhood in time.
There's plenty of opportunity to build apartments for old people to live in the area they're already in, if they can tolerate the shock and indignity of trading a detached single family home with a back yard for an apartment.
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#10Yes, it's disgusting that the people who show up to meetings match the demographics of the neighborhood. Why aren't there more rich immigrants and purple-haired bearded programmers who moved there from the Midwest a year and a half ago? Those 80 year-olds are going to hold onto their homes for decades!
Usually the only people who have the free time to go to these meetings are retirees, it's not matching the demographics of the neighborhood.