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Why is everyone trying to build a solid-state battery?

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Re: Why is everyone trying to build a solid-state battery?

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And you mostly aren’t charging to 80%, usually it’s closer to 40-60%.

heh, ok, that’s strange. So when you say it’s got a 350 mile range, but then make the point you only need to charge to 40% that you would be fine with a single vehicle that had a 140mile range? I swear buying an EV in 2026 breaks brains. The push back has been so bad because the mfgs pushed the single car lie… but the people that jumped in now need to defend their $60,000 purchases. I get it, but please don’t think y…

Here is a great video documenting the actual reality of this situation in cold weather nonetheless!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebGLFVzvdfM

Re: Why is everyone trying to build a solid-state battery?

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High velocity accidents where the gas is quickly dispersed into the air is pretty much the only way that happens.

Even then it's just a slow-burning fireball, not detonation, no shockwave.

Still more than enough to burn your windpipe, skin to 2/3rd degree and permanently disfigure you

Re: Why is everyone trying to build a solid-state battery?

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The word "battery" is a stand-in for electrochemical cell, which wood obviously isn't. Quite some advantages are expected from batteries that don't involve liquids or gels, whether incremental or not.

I don't know what more I can say to convince you that I'm not trying to put down the technology. I'm interested in it, that's why I think it's a shame to curse it with a used-car salesman marketing name. As for wood batteries, Most usage of the term 'battery' is independent of technology, outside of usually wanting electricity as the interface. The fact that most batteries people talk about happen to be electrochemic…

You're trying to put down the terminology and it's both unhelpful and incorrect.

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It is so rare for EVs to catch fire that it makes the news whenever one does, and these form the core of the anti-EV memes that are popular with boomers on Facebook.

never seen an ICE catch fire on its own but its rare you say ? https://www.energytrend.com/news/20221018-30074.html

I’ve seen plenty ICEs catch fire on the side of the freeway, no idea how they got there but it’s not “news” when it happens since it happens so often.

Re: Why is everyone trying to build a solid-state battery?

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If you can extract some energy then by definition it is not zero-point energy.

I presume that was a Stargate reference. Zero Point Module, often abbreviated ZPM, is a power source, created by the Ancients, capable of supplying tremendous amounts of energy. It is one of the most formidable power sources known to exist, having been developed by the Ancients several million years ago during their reign of the Milky Way galaxy https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Zero_Point_Module

They use crystals, and quantum, so they're obviously the real deal.

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Definitely! However I frequently encounter people on energy discussion forums that assume that we need 2-3 months of battery storage, perhaps because they see natural gas or other storage and assume that batteries need exactly the same thing, so I'm perhaps overly eager to respond to claims about month-long battery storage. I had previously been hopeful that battery storage would allow more shared used of land, but t…

You'd have to compare the fire risk of a high density battery vs a substation. But the beauty of battery and solar/wind is that it can be far more distributed. This of course means far harder to take out -- a wildfire near a nuclear power plant could knock out 3GW of capacity, a wildfire near one of 50x 60MW solar plants would knock out 60MW of capacity. Solar might not be the only solution in a country at a high lat…

you mean fission . thats why we need fusion

Re: Why is everyone trying to build a solid-state battery?

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I suspect there's a big of cognitive dissonance here. My guess US has more emphasis on road trips, longer distances, vastly more wilderness areas, etc. Europe is mostly urbanized it's almost boring. Dunno about China, but I guess they cracked charging infrastructure.

Exactly this. “Oh, but Norway uses EVs a ton!” … cool, Norway is the size of an average US state, the population of Connecticut, over an extremely thin area which optimizes one vector of infrastructure automatically. And makes the majority of its money on oil. Geez, almost like EV ultra-success stories aren’t even remotely comparable the rest of the world.

USA is the outlier here.

Re: Why is everyone trying to build a solid-state battery?

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I presume that was a Stargate reference. Zero Point Module, often abbreviated ZPM, is a power source, created by the Ancients, capable of supplying tremendous amounts of energy. It is one of the most formidable power sources known to exist, having been developed by the Ancients several million years ago during their reign of the Milky Way galaxy https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Zero_Point_Module

They use crystals, and quantum, so they're obviously the real deal.

We should star calling silicon chips crystals, we'll sound much more legit on the galactic level.

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They use crystals, and quantum, so they're obviously the real deal.

We should star calling silicon chips crystals, we'll sound much more legit on the galactic level.

(If you will permit the fanfic):

Carter: I've finished comparing Goa'uld control crystals, all that glow is completely unnecessary.

O'Neill: So they added lights inside closed boxes because…?

Teal'c: The Goa'uld have always favoured displays of grandeur over practicality.

O'Neill: Hold on. You're telling me the galaxy's self-proclaimed gods are flying around in gamer motherboards?

Carter: Sir…

Daniel: No, I think Jack's right.

O'Neill: I am?

Daniel: Glowing lights everywhere, gold trim, needlessly dramatic startup sequence. And they definitely treat us as pawns in their games.

Teal'c: Indeed.

Re: Why is everyone trying to build a solid-state battery?

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Solid state batteries come in several flavours. Most of them don't stop dendrites. The flavour you want is polymer, single ion conducting solid state with an ion transport activation energy below 10kJ/mol at room temperature and no phase transitions from -40C to 80C. That is the holy grail of SS batteries.

Are anyone building the battery you described?

Is anyone.
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