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Apple Will 'Watch Everything Burn' When AI Bubble Bursts

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Re: Apple Will 'Watch Everything Burn' When AI Bubble Bursts

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Zitron reminds me of that lawyer character in Silicon Valley (HBO). A ~decade later, turned influencer.

You mean the same character who plays the male lead on Superstore? They are primarily an influencer now?

The same.

That I did not say.

Re: Apple Will 'Watch Everything Burn' When AI Bubble Bursts

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It's so popular to think this is a bubble. Some aspects likely are, but the zeal for this to be a bubble is disturbing to me. I get that there will be winners and if you're not one of them, you might be more likely to want this thing to pop. In my mind, that's not the right disposition, you should want the gains to be spread as equitably as possible.

Re: Apple Will 'Watch Everything Burn' When AI Bubble Bursts

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Google will win the AI war. I really don t see how things can be different. The true question is how much the involvement of Sergei Brin will have been a major part of that win. [but now that I work in a big corp, I can understand how one smart guy saying “shut the f..k up, managers. I show the path” can be extremely disruptive in those kind of environments. For the better!]

In my personal experience, Gemini seems to have the best image editing and creation capabilities but when it comes to coding, Claude is my favorite. However, Claude is slow and errors out for me often. Grok is also very good when it comes to coding but I seek to run into their rate limits much easier, so I don't use it. I only use free web version for all btw.

>Gemini seems to have the best image editing and creation capabilities

This was true until late April, when OpenAI's GPT Image 2 overtook Nano Banana 2.

Re: Apple Will 'Watch Everything Burn' When AI Bubble Bursts

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they never had my business; their style over all else along with the combination of planned obsolescence and conspicuous consumption are obscene misuse of the human heuristics.

They're the company that builds laptops people still use 5-10 years later. If anything they've set the standard for long lifespans when it comes to tech devices.

Still got a MacBook Pro (2019) and iMac (2019) running just fine.

The iPhone 8 finally died. I think it was almost 10 years old.

Re: Apple Will 'Watch Everything Burn' When AI Bubble Bursts

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Ed Zitron also said that consumers were losing interest in ChatGPT in January 2024, that AI models were reaching their upper possible limits in Feburary 2024, that ChatGPT and similar products were "not particularly useful for anything", that hallucinations could not possibly be reduced in models, etc. He's a churlish AI skeptic that isn't worth listening to.

There's a huge crowd of "wishful thinkers" that want to see AI collapse and will cling to any rationalization that it will do so. This is Zitron's audience.

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Ed Zitron also said that consumers were losing interest in ChatGPT in January 2024, that AI models were reaching their upper possible limits in Feburary 2024, that ChatGPT and similar products were "not particularly useful for anything", that hallucinations could not possibly be reduced in models, etc. He's a churlish AI skeptic that isn't worth listening to.

> that AI models were reaching their upper possible limits in Feburary 2024,

I’m curious, removing coding as a criterion what is more impressive about the current models than say gpt 4o? Give a prompt example. Keep in mind most consumers of AI are likely not using it for coding so this is relevant.

I doubt anyone could give a not coding example where it’s meaningfully better with current frontier than 4o.

Take humaneval. 4o gets 90, gpt 5.6 gets 94%. So what?

https://openai.com/index/hello-gpt-4o/

If an iPhone had a 4o quality model that could run locally frontier models would be finished.

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Ed Zitron also said that consumers were losing interest in ChatGPT in January 2024, that AI models were reaching their upper possible limits in Feburary 2024, that ChatGPT and similar products were "not particularly useful for anything", that hallucinations could not possibly be reduced in models, etc. He's a churlish AI skeptic that isn't worth listening to.

Zed publishes usage metrics for AI and they are trending down:

https://zed.dev/agent-metrics

Re: Apple Will 'Watch Everything Burn' When AI Bubble Bursts

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Ed Zitron also said that consumers were losing interest in ChatGPT in January 2024, that AI models were reaching their upper possible limits in Feburary 2024, that ChatGPT and similar products were "not particularly useful for anything", that hallucinations could not possibly be reduced in models, etc. He's a churlish AI skeptic that isn't worth listening to.

People still believe that the model intelligence has plateaud and I feel like they live under the rocks. I get the insane capex spend, I get the hype, I even get certain company will go under but to ignore the capability jump in a year is absurd.
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