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Re: Dubious research tied to Red Bull has shaped energy drink policy

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Post by DANmode »

neutronicus wrote: post #115
jodacola wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everybody's physiology is different, but I drank a full pot of coffee every day, for about 15 years. After Getting Older™, I was noticing more and more effects that I didn't like, so I made the decision to (mostly) detox off caffeine using decaf beans. Cold turkey would have destroyed me. I went with the following schedule: * Week 1: 75% caffeinated/25% decaf beans * Week 2: 50% caf/50% decaf * Week 3: 25% caf/75% de…

Did you try Excedrin? It has some caffeine in it. It does seem to be especially helpful relative to just Tylenol for me as a migraine sufferer. Specifically for helping to disperse the aura.

> disperse the aura.

What’s this mean?

Re: Dubious research tied to Red Bull has shaped energy drink policy

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Post by strbean »

tombert wrote: post #25

I have always hated coffee so I've previously had some kind of energy drink in the morning for weeks at a time. Those suckers are bizarrely addictive. It's one thing to have one shortly after you wake up, but I found myself craving them later and later in the day, and of course that makes it harder to sleep...which makes me more likely to have energy drinks the next day. I stopped the daily consumption when I realize…

Consuming that much caffeine is terrible for your heart.

If you find yourself consuming a lot of caffeine regularly, you would probably be much better served by Adderall. You can get the same stimulant effect with much less wear and tear on your body. If you want to put it to the test without breaking the law or going through the hassle of getting a prescription, you can try taking 1 or 2 Sudafed (the real stuff that requires ID), which I've found to be functionally equivalent to a low dose of Adderall.

(The normal caveats about health risks of stimulants apply to this comment - avoid if you have a heart condition, etc.)

Re: Dubious research tied to Red Bull has shaped energy drink policy

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Post by jodacola »

DANmode wrote: post #121
neutronicus wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you try Excedrin? It has some caffeine in it. It does seem to be especially helpful relative to just Tylenol for me as a migraine sufferer. Specifically for helping to disperse the aura.

> disperse the aura. What’s this mean?

Migraine auras - the additional disturbances that can accompany the pain (or, in some cases be present without the pain) [0].

[0] https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/22131-migrain...

Re: Dubious research tied to Red Bull has shaped energy drink policy

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Post by DANmode »

jodacola wrote: post #123
DANmode wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> disperse the aura. What’s this mean?

Migraine auras - the additional disturbances that can accompany the pain (or, in some cases be present without the pain) [0]. [0] https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/22131-migrain...

Thank you!

Re: Dubious research tied to Red Bull has shaped energy drink policy

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Post by IncreasePosts »

superdisk wrote: post #29

I really don't know why people go so nuts over energy drinks. People casually chug coffee like crazy and then act like you're drinking nuclear waste when you drink a monster, and then you look at the ingredients list and it's like - Water - Sugar - Vitamin B - Caffeine and the caffeine is basically equivalent to one cup of coffee.

Make a 12 oz cup of coffee and put 37g of sugar in it(12 of those little sugar packets at some restaurants). You will get weird looks too.

Re: Dubious research tied to Red Bull has shaped energy drink policy

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Post by Kon5ole »

Seems like a good a place as any to ask this - anyone else feel no effect from either coffee or energy drinks? I can go from 4-5 cups of coffee per day at work (coffee machine) to 0 cups in the weekend and feel no different. Had bouts of doing 4-6 red bulls (or similar energy drinks) per evening into the wee hours as a youngster and still fell asleep at the keyboard - felt no different than drinking water or lemonade.

Maybe related, I ran for an hour a day for a year but never came close to feeling anything like a "runner's high".

Anyone else have similar experiences?

Re: Dubious research tied to Red Bull has shaped energy drink policy

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Post by ericmcer »

superdisk wrote: post #29

I really don't know why people go so nuts over energy drinks. People casually chug coffee like crazy and then act like you're drinking nuclear waste when you drink a monster, and then you look at the ingredients list and it's like - Water - Sugar - Vitamin B - Caffeine and the caffeine is basically equivalent to one cup of coffee.

ingredients aside, coffee tastes somewhat natural whereas most energy drinks taste like liquid sweet tarts. I have never had one and felt remotely like it might be healthy.

You are also cutting out preservatives, additives, sucralose, dyes and whatever else is in the long ingredient list.

Re: Dubious research tied to Red Bull has shaped energy drink policy

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Post by [deleted] »

strbean wrote: post #122
tombert wrote: post #25

I have always hated coffee so I've previously had some kind of energy drink in the morning for weeks at a time. Those suckers are bizarrely addictive. It's one thing to have one shortly after you wake up, but I found myself craving them later and later in the day, and of course that makes it harder to sleep...which makes me more likely to have energy drinks the next day. I stopped the daily consumption when I realize…

Consuming that much caffeine is terrible for your heart. If you find yourself consuming a lot of caffeine regularly, you would probably be much better served by Adderall. You can get the same stimulant effect with much less wear and tear on your body. If you want to put it to the test without breaking the law or going through the hassle of getting a prescription, you can try taking 1 or 2 Sudafed (the real stuff that…

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Re: Dubious research tied to Red Bull has shaped energy drink policy

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Post by Lord-Jobo »

Kon5ole wrote: post #126

Seems like a good a place as any to ask this - anyone else feel no effect from either coffee or energy drinks? I can go from 4-5 cups of coffee per day at work (coffee machine) to 0 cups in the weekend and feel no different. Had bouts of doing 4-6 red bulls (or similar energy drinks) per evening into the wee hours as a youngster and still fell asleep at the keyboard - felt no different than drinking water or lemonade…

I have ADHD and noticed an INVERSE effect of caffeine for years, it would mostly just make me tired. That was before being properly medicated with a stimulant. After that, caffeine works the same as anyone else. It’s very weird.

In the internet age, I’ve learned this is pretty common for people with adhd.

I have 6 or so years experience with serious running, and experienced a runners high exactly 1 time.

Re: Dubious research tied to Red Bull has shaped energy drink policy

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Post by bpodgursky »

Retric wrote: post #46
superdisk wrote: post #29

I really don't know why people go so nuts over energy drinks. People casually chug coffee like crazy and then act like you're drinking nuclear waste when you drink a monster, and then you look at the ingredients list and it's like - Water - Sugar - Vitamin B - Caffeine and the caffeine is basically equivalent to one cup of coffee.

Monster has roughly the same amount of caffeine per volume as black coffee but their standard size is 16oz which is a huge cup of undiluted coffee.

Not true, a 16oz monster has 140mg caffeine, a 12 oz starbucks has 235-270mg.
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