Winding Down Artichoke Ruby

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Post by ksec » Sat, Jul 25, 2026, 6:04 PM UTC

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Post by Levitating » Fri, Jul 31, 2026, 2:43 PM UTC

I did some digging into Artichokes sourcecode to get inspiration for making a Ruby like language in Rust. But I found the codebase a bit complicated and ended up taking more inspiration from mruby instead. It's deeply segmented into different crates like many Rust projects are.

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Post by brokensegue » Fri, Jul 31, 2026, 3:33 PM UTC

it's cool it lasted so long

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Post by bingemaker » Fri, Jul 31, 2026, 4:16 PM UTC

The only implementation which is going head on with MRI is JRuby. I've heard from JRuby implementers that keeping the runtime compatible with MRI is an uphill battle. I don't know if AI can help this cause.

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Post by Alifatisk » Fri, Jul 31, 2026, 4:34 PM UTC

Very sad news, but it lasted for way longer than I expected. Well done!

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Post by byroot » Fri, Jul 31, 2026, 5:19 PM UTC

bingemaker wrote: post #4

The only implementation which is going head on with MRI is JRuby. I've heard from JRuby implementers that keeping the runtime compatible with MRI is an uphill battle. I don't know if AI can help this cause.

TruffleRuby is pretty close too, if anything it’s even a bit more compatible because it’s able to run native extensions.

Also keeping compatible with MRI have been made significantly easier by Prism, the new parser that is shared by all implementations.

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Post by bingemaker » Fri, Jul 31, 2026, 5:47 PM UTC

byroot wrote: post #6

bingemaker wrote: post #4

The only implementation which is going head on with MRI is JRuby. I've heard from JRuby implementers that keeping the runtime compatible with MRI is an uphill battle. I don't know if AI can help this cause.

TruffleRuby is pretty close too, if anything it’s even a bit more compatible because it’s able to run native extensions. Also keeping compatible with MRI have been made significantly easier by Prism, the new parser that is shared by all implementations.

Thanks for the clarification. I thought Prism is still in beta. Maybe I'm wrong

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Post by miki123211 » Fri, Jul 31, 2026, 5:50 PM UTC

> OpenAI is demanding

Just me, or are OpenAI and Anthropic basically hiring all the smart developers, like the Google of old? If you're making something like this, very likely that you're working for either OAI or Anthropic.

This makes the acquihires of Bun and Astral make a lot more sense. A Rust / Zig company attracts a special kind of crowd, and dev tools are notoriously hard to sell, so any exit is a good exit for them. I wouldn't be surprised if Zed or maybe Tigerbeetle were next (though the latter has a much clearer pathway to true commercial success).

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Post by byroot » Fri, Jul 31, 2026, 6:33 PM UTC

bingemaker wrote: post #7

byroot wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TruffleRuby is pretty close too, if anything it’s even a bit more compatible because it’s able to run native extensions. Also keeping compatible with MRI have been made significantly easier by Prism, the new parser that is shared by all implementations.

Thanks for the clarification. I thought Prism is still in beta. Maybe I'm wrong

Nope. It’s been the default MRI parser for a couple years now.