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Re: Dubious research tied to Red Bull has shaped energy drink policy

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Post by tombert »

layer8 wrote: post #32
tombert wrote: post #25

I have always hated coffee so I've previously had some kind of energy drink in the morning for weeks at a time. Those suckers are bizarrely addictive. It's one thing to have one shortly after you wake up, but I found myself craving them later and later in the day, and of course that makes it harder to sleep...which makes me more likely to have energy drinks the next day. I stopped the daily consumption when I realize…

I mean, you could say the same thing about coffee.

Probably. As I said, I've always hated coffee so I've never really had any desire to consume large quantities of it, so I can't speak to that.

I will say, though, energy drinks do become a relatively expensive addiction. A Monster energy drink can easily cost 3-4 dollars, so if I had three of those a day we are talking $10+ of cost. If you get off brands they're cheaper, but even still I think they're overpriced.

I know it's a meme that people pay like $6 for a coffee at Starbucks, but I think if you buy the coffee beans yourself or instant coffee it's relatively cheap.

Re: Dubious research tied to Red Bull has shaped energy drink policy

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Post by BugsJustFindMe »

Retric wrote: post #46
superdisk wrote: post #29

I really don't know why people go so nuts over energy drinks. People casually chug coffee like crazy and then act like you're drinking nuclear waste when you drink a monster, and then you look at the ingredients list and it's like - Water - Sugar - Vitamin B - Caffeine and the caffeine is basically equivalent to one cup of coffee.

Monster has roughly the same amount of caffeine per volume as black coffee but their standard size is 16oz which is a huge cup of undiluted coffee.

My daily morning coffee is about that size though, so it's not huge to me. :)

Re: Dubious research tied to Red Bull has shaped energy drink policy

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Post by swores »

ls612 wrote: post #26
nemomarx wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I could believe the UK might try to ban selling coffee to under 21s too at the current rate, honestly. There's probably at least one study about stunting growth with coffee?

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I mean, there's more than enough reasons to criticise or laugh at the UK that actually exist, without mocking a country for a hypothetical of someone online that hasn't actually been proposed by any politicians or, well, anybody at all?

Re: Dubious research tied to Red Bull has shaped energy drink policy

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Post by delecti »

superdisk wrote: post #29

I really don't know why people go so nuts over energy drinks. People casually chug coffee like crazy and then act like you're drinking nuclear waste when you drink a monster, and then you look at the ingredients list and it's like - Water - Sugar - Vitamin B - Caffeine and the caffeine is basically equivalent to one cup of coffee.

A can of Monster is actually closer to two typical cups of coffee (usually a bit under 100mg vs 160mg). Though that doesn't change the point being made; nobody would blink at "I drink two cups of coffee most mornings". The various B vitamins also help avoid the jitters that caffeine can cause.

Re: Dubious research tied to Red Bull has shaped energy drink policy

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Post by tombert »

munk-a wrote: post #50
layer8 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, you could say the same thing about coffee.

You could but you'd be quite disingenuous if you did considering that coffee delivers caffeine without a bunch of added sugar.

I was drinking the sugar free energy drinks, so I wasn't getting a ton of sugar.

Still not saying it's healthy but it wasn't because of too much sugar.

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Post by kube-system »

doctorpangloss wrote: post #30
harimau777 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My understanding is that part of the problem with mixing caffine with alcohol is that it can prevent someone from passing out; which is the body's defense mechanism against alcohol poisoning. From that perspective I think that an argument could be made that restricting caffinated alcohol is regulating substances with known health risks. Full disclosure: I like vodka Redbulls. So I'm not saying this like I'm someone w…

Four Lokos were indeed banned in Massachusetts.

The original caffeinated Four Loko formula was discontinued everywhere 16 years ago.

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Post by cogman10 »

superdisk wrote: post #29

I really don't know why people go so nuts over energy drinks. People casually chug coffee like crazy and then act like you're drinking nuclear waste when you drink a monster, and then you look at the ingredients list and it's like - Water - Sugar - Vitamin B - Caffeine and the caffeine is basically equivalent to one cup of coffee.

It depends on the drink, but there's often a lot more than those ingredients. The caffeine, while the same as what's in coffee per ml, you are looking at 600ml at a minimum for most of these drinks meaning you 2 cups of coffee for every serving.

Re: Dubious research tied to Red Bull has shaped energy drink policy

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Post by layer8 »

tombert wrote: post #51
layer8 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, you could say the same thing about coffee.

Probably. As I said, I've always hated coffee so I've never really had any desire to consume large quantities of it, so I can't speak to that. I will say, though, energy drinks do become a relatively expensive addiction. A Monster energy drink can easily cost 3-4 dollars, so if I had three of those a day we are talking $10+ of cost. If you get off brands they're cheaper, but even still I think they're overpriced. I k…

$3-4 is a lot. They are 0.99 € here (tax included).

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Post by grvdrm »

frankzander wrote: post #33

To all RB/Energy Drink consuments ... why do you drink RB instead of a good ol cup of coffee/tee? Please ... don't just write "it tastes good" ... no it don't. A strawberry or a cherry from the tree tastes good but not RB.

I drink Celsius. Not every day, but here and there. Also coffee.

So, a real answer instead of "it doesn't"

- It doesn't taste like coffee. Relatively flavorful, but obviously a bit on the artificial side

- I drink a Celsius when I am targeting minimal stomach disruption (e.g. before a run or before intensive cardio)

- I drink a Celsius when I don't want to wait for the coffee-maker during early morning hours.

- I drink Celsius if I run out of creamer (for coffee), something I don't need anyways but I like.

- Cold brew is acceptable substitute if I don't have a Celsius.

- Normal brewed coffee otherwise.

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Post by mmsc »

tombert wrote: post #25

I have always hated coffee so I've previously had some kind of energy drink in the morning for weeks at a time. Those suckers are bizarrely addictive. It's one thing to have one shortly after you wake up, but I found myself craving them later and later in the day, and of course that makes it harder to sleep...which makes me more likely to have energy drinks the next day. I stopped the daily consumption when I realize…

Feeling miserable for three days seems ... unlikely after 800mg/day of caffeine. I say that to mean, it should be much longer (been there, done that, took many months) Caffeine use especially at that level massively grows the amount adenosine receptors your brain has, and they don't just disappear overnight.

A 500ml Diet Coke (assuming you don't mean the caffeine free version) also contains about 65 mg of caffeine, which is the same as an espresso. I'm not sure if you really quit. Caffeine is also in a surprisingly large amount of soft drinks you wouldn't expect.

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