Opposition to energy drinks seems like a moral panic to me. Like I don't see anyone calling for bans on coffee and Irish coffee.
Well, are either of those sold in cans and marketed to children?
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It sure is our business if companies are misappropriating science to sell harmful products or advertize harmful misuse of their products.
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#23Everyone knows caffeine isn't that great for you, its already labeled and its not deceiving anyone and many abstain. What they should ban is Gatorade/Poweraid which is tricking everyone. Ask a nephrologist or cardiologist if they drink it! THE THIRST MUTILATOR!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#24there seems to be 3 different issues in this article: - mixing alcohol and energy drinks (health-wise, e.g. arrhythmia) - mixing alcohol and energy drinks (psychologically, e.g. increased risky behavior) - age restriction on energy drinks to prevent kids from drinking them i am not positive how i feel on the first two. i could be convinced that the third is reasonable for some age group, though i think it would be si…
long live 4 loco
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#25I have always hated coffee so I've previously had some kind of energy drink in the morning for weeks at a time.
Those suckers are bizarrely addictive. It's one thing to have one shortly after you wake up, but I found myself craving them later and later in the day, and of course that makes it harder to sleep...which makes me more likely to have energy drinks the next day.
I stopped the daily consumption when I realized I was having around 800mg of caffeine a day, which couldn't possibly be good for me. I quit energy drinks cold turkey and just did Diet Coke, which I cut off at 2pm; even with that weening off I still got headaches and felt miserable for three days.
I will still occasionally consume an energy drink if I'm traveling and I need to wake up super early, but thankfully these are very outlier events.
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#26Opposition to energy drinks seems like a moral panic to me. Like I don't see anyone calling for bans on coffee and Irish coffee.
I could believe the UK might try to ban selling coffee to under 21s too at the current rate, honestly. There's probably at least one study about stunting growth with coffee?
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#27Everyone knows caffeine isn't that great for you, its already labeled and its not deceiving anyone and many abstain. What they should ban is Gatorade/Poweraid which is tricking everyone. Ask a nephrologist or cardiologist if they drink it! THE THIRST MUTILATOR!!!!!!!!!!!!
can you point me to any research?
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What health effects compared to other caffeine sources (pills, coffee) I haven't really noticed any, or heard much studies that wouldn't apply to similar amounts of coffee at least. Do the other supplemented ingredients add a lot of harm?
No it is just a moral panic because college students like to drink vodka Red Bulls, as opposed to drinking Irish coffees or any similar combination of caffeine and alcohol.
Yeah, seems like the problem is alcohol + caffeine, and at least in the US, those combinations in a single drink have been banned (ie Four Loko)
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#29I really don't know why people go so nuts over energy drinks. People casually chug coffee like crazy and then act like you're drinking nuclear waste when you drink a monster, and then you look at the ingredients list and it's like
- Water - Sugar - Vitamin B - Caffeine
and the caffeine is basically equivalent to one cup of coffee.
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#30there seems to be 3 different issues in this article: - mixing alcohol and energy drinks (health-wise, e.g. arrhythmia) - mixing alcohol and energy drinks (psychologically, e.g. increased risky behavior) - age restriction on energy drinks to prevent kids from drinking them i am not positive how i feel on the first two. i could be convinced that the third is reasonable for some age group, though i think it would be si…
My understanding is that part of the problem with mixing caffine with alcohol is that it can prevent someone from passing out; which is the body's defense mechanism against alcohol poisoning. From that perspective I think that an argument could be made that restricting caffinated alcohol is regulating substances with known health risks. Full disclosure: I like vodka Redbulls. So I'm not saying this like I'm someone w…
Four Lokos were indeed banned in Massachusetts.