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Puberty blockers trial can start recruiting children

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Re: Puberty blockers trial can start recruiting children

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This thread will likely have extensive hate on a very small portion of the population.

A reminder that actual people have been turned into a cultural wedge issue, their lives put in danger due to the vitriol the culture war issue has stirred.

If you have known a person who has transitioned, you'd likely see someone happier after being able to transition.

Laws targeting trans people won't stop an actual criminal from entering the wrong bathroom.

Children and teens can absolutely know these things about themselves. Imagine telling a child who has a hetero crush on a classmate that they're too young to know they're straight. Children are little people. It won't be the correct choice for every child, but for every child it is the correct choice for, it will lead to a happier life and a more effective transition.

last but not least, you didn't care about competitive women's swimming before, you're not fooling me that you care about it now.

Re: Puberty blockers trial can start recruiting children

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> Campaigners who brought the legal action had argued the safeguards in place were inadequate and raised concerns about the long-term physical and psychological effects on young people.

What exactly are the safeguards for real? It’s literally irreversible damage when you mess up with hormones while on puberty.

I am conflicted myself, but I think I err on the side of caution and think that avoiding messing with your hormones should be no brainer.

Re: Puberty blockers trial can start recruiting children

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This thread will likely have extensive hate on a very small portion of the population. A reminder that actual people have been turned into a cultural wedge issue, their lives put in danger due to the vitriol the culture war issue has stirred. If you have known a person who has transitioned, you'd likely see someone happier after being able to transition. Laws targeting trans people won't stop an actual criminal from…

> Children and teens can absolutely know these things about themselves.

The article quotes a campaigner against the trial who first transitioned and then detransitioned (as far as this was still possible I assume, since a lot is irreversible). So kids can absolutely make the wrong decision. The question is what the relative frequency of these mistakes is.

Re: Puberty blockers trial can start recruiting children

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>The number of members with GH claims per 10,000 beneficiaries under age 18 rose steadily from 5.1 in 2001 to 14.6 in 2016, without a dramatic change around 2003, the ISS approval date.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6795021/

Just as a reminder for everyone here, 0.14% of US children (+3x in a decade) are given Human Growth Hormone because they are short. Our government says that being in the bottom 2 percentiles is a medically valid condition to be treated with hormones.

Differentially focusing your emotional response on sex-expression hormone therapy vs. hormone therapy generally is reflective of bias.

Re: Puberty blockers trial can start recruiting children

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Besides the bait, if the claim is that the evidence for treatment is weak (or well, "evil") a study with appropriate safeguards seems like it should be welcomed not eschewed.

Weak doesn't mean "evil" here. If the effect is strong, but a lot of kids end up regretting it later, then this would be bad.

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Besides the bait, if the claim is that the evidence for treatment is weak (or well, "evil") a study with appropriate safeguards seems like it should be welcomed not eschewed.

Weak doesn't mean "evil" here. If the effect is strong, but a lot of kids end up regretting it later, then this would be bad.

In this case regretting it generally means stopping taking blockers and letting puberty progress as it would without the intervention. Puberty blockers give time to assess if further intervention is needed later (such as hormone replacement therapy)

Re: Puberty blockers trial can start recruiting children

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As someone who has gone through a phase of questioning my ... inner state of the matter on this topic, now in retrospect, I am so so so so soooooo glad that such options were not readily available to me. If I was that age in the current world, I simply would've done it.

Given the permanent nature of a transition on a body, I really wish the advocates of pushing this at young ages would not push back against discussions of people who decide to detransition. Such stories break my heart way more than someone being unable to transition before a certain age.

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