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Situational Awareness down 67% in July in AI stock rout

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Re: Situational Awareness down 67% in July in AI stock rout

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> Aschenbrenner party blamed short sellers who targeted the firm’s positions for exacerbating the fund’s losses, the letter said. The letter compared Situational’s experience to a bank run.

4 years ago, it was SBF blaming Changpeng Zhao for shorting FTT and triggering a run on FTX.

Now another EA has followed the path of making a lot of money relatively quickly and losing it just as fast, using the exact same arguments for why it happened.

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what law are you insinuating Aschenbrenner broke?

I say this with absolutely no evidence and only stating it as a hypothetical. But as an example it would be plausible that insider trading was involved.

Re: Situational Awareness down 67% in July in AI stock rout

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Earlier on HN: Martin Shkreli breaks down the collapse of Situational Awareness - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49119380 Edit: added context

Why are you promoting content by Martin Shkreli? You know, the guy who committed securities fraud to rip off desperate patients?

He has served his time for those crimes

Re: Situational Awareness down 67% in July in AI stock rout

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This is everywhere. For reference, former FTXer and OpenAIer raised $225m into a hedge fund structure, went long and short, and reportedly peaked at $40bn of value; leverage bit hard this week and they sold their entire-ish portfolio to Citadel at $10bn. (Which, I imagine was very likely aiming at this outcome in their trading in the last few weeks). Not reported anywhere -- was additional money raised in to the fund…

Say more about how citadel made this happen with their trading?

Citadel spread the rumor that the Fed was going to hike rates this week. This led to Situational Awareness getting margin called on their longs.

Re: Situational Awareness down 67% in July in AI stock rout

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are you promoting content by Martin Shkreli? You know, the guy who committed securities fraud to rip off desperate patients?

I really don't like this guy, seriously he's a shark (he's probably right, but what a jerk): "If you know somebody has to liquidate, the best thing you have to do, unfortunately, sadly, Darwinian is to go sell all the positions you have in common, then start shorting everything they have. It accelerates the downfall as quickly as you can." of course then he says 'It's nothing I would ever do...'

That’s truly the playbook when you are on the other side of a levered firm though.

Re: Situational Awareness down 67% in July in AI stock rout

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are you promoting content by Martin Shkreli? You know, the guy who committed securities fraud to rip off desperate patients?

He has done more for wallstreet-to-mainstreet transparency than you believe. His investor literacy youtube backlog is unusually deep and as of yet has only shilled his own trading product. But your point is valid, he will never live down the fraud conviction and his face is so punchable.

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Re: Situational Awareness down 67% in July in AI stock rout

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

what law are you insinuating Aschenbrenner broke?

I say this with absolutely no evidence and only stating it as a hypothetical. But as an example it would be plausible that insider trading was involved.

trust us, it's quite clear you have no knowledge about the topic you are speaking on.
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