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The AI Aesthetic

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Re: The AI Aesthetic

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This has been a growing problem with humans for a while. Go back ten years and use "guardrails" or "top of mind" in a conversation and you'll get baffled looks. For whatever reason the fad based enthusiasm for semi jargon is a widespread affliction. In the english speaking world the political sides are even becoming unsubtly linguistically distinct. You can tell which way someone votes by their choice of vocabulary.

You got examples of such vocabulary?

Yikes!

Re: The AI Aesthetic

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I love this analysis. I chalked the new aesthetic up to AI companies using a new breed/generation of highly talented and highly paid UI/UX designers who have the opportunity to bring their own flavor and influence to an emerging but extremely influential space.

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The one thing that strikes me as LLMesque is the occasional use of random and seemingly inappropriate symbols. For instance the lightning bolt and then the arrow/square by the order ahead label by the start an order button. It's also placed in a slightly odd location. The symbols at the top are also kind of weird. I think it's the LLM trying to allude to the cyberpunk theme, but it does a poor job of it in a way that…

Yeah polish + consistency but also with busy-ness is a hallmark from what I've seen. It can be tamed, but takes effort. That said, the provided examples definitely are a clear step up from the "default" you'd get. Like how some bootstrap-templated sites did it much better than others, while the best made it nearly invisible.

Busy-ness is a key tell. AI isn't economic in any sense. Applies to text, images, video, and sometimes to code.

There's a lot of detail, but most of it is decoration for the sake of distraction.

AI isn't good at understatement, subtext, or (ironically) elegant distillation.

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> For example, there’s the hamburger menu (≡) which saw a proliferation during the rise of mobile due to the constraints around screen size. Speaking of this, GitHub replaced theirs with a pancake emoji. Maybe related to the stacked pull-requests announcement earlier today.

Did they write anywhere about it? I noticed it - and I think it uses the system emoji, because I noticed the pancake was different between my systems.

Here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49114450

Re: The AI Aesthetic

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Yeah polish + consistency but also with busy-ness is a hallmark from what I've seen. It can be tamed, but takes effort. That said, the provided examples definitely are a clear step up from the "default" you'd get. Like how some bootstrap-templated sites did it much better than others, while the best made it nearly invisible.

What you said made me think that it's similar (not entirely the same, but adjacent) to those make-a-website for $XX or buy-a-template era of websites. If we think about that as the intended competition (and not websites corps spent millions on design/polish/copy), I'd argue that AI (model + coding agent + skills + whatever) is doing a better job overall. Most agencies don't spend enough effort in understanding what y…

I disagree.

The Neon Ramen example look really cool at first glance, but if you spend more than a second or 5 looking at it you keep finding visual glitches, inconsistent design, and elements which don't belong. It's nice for a brainstorming phase, but that's about it.

If you were to go with a buy-a-template you'd probably end up with a less flashy design, but at least it'd be consistent. Those templates are built by combining standard styled elements to create a bunch of common design patterns. Sure, nothing looks great, but nothing looks bad either!

If you don't really care about a website, going for a ready-made template is by far the safer, easier, and cheaper option. And if you go for something like Squarespace, you don't even need an agency at all.

Re: The AI Aesthetic

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A lot of the AI aesthetic of UX _currently_ is a function of the defaults in the skills and tools that ai agents are equipped with. That's distinct from the "AI look" for image generation which is just baked into the weights. You can get AI to build a UX with any aesthetic you want with the same design language tools that human designers use.

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Ha! Totally fair. 13 cents is 0% margin, which is what I'm targeting for individual plans. I literally just got my SOC2 compliance complete an hour ago, and I'm gonna roll out team plans/enterprise plans next week (unified billing + shared brands). For teams I'm gonna charge a flat 25% margin on API costs, and for enterprise I'll have a 50% margin + minimum spend. I think I'm going to keep the individual plans at 0%…

The cost-plus pricing strategy! Besides Cuban's Cost Plus Drugs, haven't encountered it much at all. Hope you start a trend. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost-plus_pricing / https://www.costplusdrugs.com

Is it just me, or is "cost plus drugs" a horrible name?

I know they probably intend it as "[Cost-plus] drugs", but I can't help but read it as "I'll do the job for you for the material cost, plus some drugs".

Re: The AI Aesthetic

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Tangent but, I still know plenty of people who are not aware of the "hamburger menu" and also do not know it as such or reference it as such. The bubble in tech is pretty strange but I digress

It's a simplification of the original icons which both looked like and were called menu icons/buttons, so it makes some sense if you were around long enough:

https://www.theregister.com/on-prem/2010/07/28/samsung-galax...

https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/deal-with-broken-hard...

The Samsung one goes up instead of down because that's how it opened on the old Android phones.

I tend to also still call it a menu icon.

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Did they write anywhere about it? I noticed it - and I think it uses the system emoji, because I noticed the pancake was different between my systems.

Here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49114450

Thanks!
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