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Re: DeepSeek-V4-Flash Update

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post #167

I wonder when the antirez/ds4 group will have an update to their high accuracy 2 bit quant. Although it's funny that I am thinking about that at all because I have a 2060 :P . My local inference is playing with Gemma 4 E2B and MiniCPM 5 1B.

Objectively speaking, the 2 bit quant from antirez has very low accuracy. Meanwhile, his 4 bit quant does have decent accuracy, but is a bit pointless by being bigger than the full precision MXFP4 quant. Anyway, they all work fine in practice.

Re: DeepSeek-V4-Flash Update

#185
post #62

I'm thinking of using ChatGPT for making plans and V4-Flash for execution. Does anyone have good advice on pairing different models?

Pairing non-APIs with APIs tend to be a hassle, and risky, as usually that breaks the ToC. I guess easiest for you to test if it's worth using the OpenAI API, is to manually copy-paste responses between wherever you run V4-Flash and the ChatGPT UI. What I've done in the past is basically .zip up the entire project directory, ignoring files from .gitignore, then asking ChatGPT Pro to inspect that and come up with a pl…

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Re: DeepSeek-V4-Flash Update

#186
post #95

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An experienced software engineer (read his profile) praises the value he's found in Deepseek, and gives some real data showing how affordable that value is. Then you, dakolli - out of generosity and minute-to-minute devotion to enlightenment - sacrifice time from your busy day to sit down (though perhaps that's been painful lately?) or stand up with your phone - and offer a profound, deeply thought-out counterpoint i…

How one is affected psychologically by LLMs 'hallucinating' presumably closely tracks how one is affected by pathological liars. Most of the things pathological liars say is true and if you can put up with it, one can work with them and learn from them. But some respond with extreme hatred and avoidance. This seems like one of the responses that is reasonable ... as is acceptance and instrumentalization of the individual.

Re: DeepSeek-V4-Flash Update

#187
post #91

Deepseek and moonshot are the only two providers I consent to training for.

Xi going to shut down open-weighting of them in a matter of months. No one seriously doubts this. They will be too powerful and they will be gone.

What makes you state this?

Re: DeepSeek-V4-Flash Update

#188
post #91

Deepseek and moonshot are the only two providers I consent to training for.

Xi going to shut down open-weighting of them in a matter of months. No one seriously doubts this. They will be too powerful and they will be gone.

What would the benefit of this be? If China stops open weights, US labs still have the intelligence frontier. Maybe once Chinese models have speed, cost, and intelligence beat but right now they don't.

Undermining out entire economy by subsidizing the release of DIY versions of our main economic drive sounds like a huge win for China.

Re: DeepSeek-V4-Flash Update

#189

Where do you guys get deepseek? I'm hearing a lot of good reviews and want to try it with my pi config. from the deeepseek themselves, openrouter, or anywhere else? does it make a difference? [edit]: whoa it is really fast. will take some time to evaluate quality thou

OpenCode harness gets the most out of DS V4 Flash model. You can implement any coding task, fast and cheap.

Re: DeepSeek-V4-Flash Update

#190
post #34

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> I wouldn't doubt GPT 4.6 Luna being in the top left quadrant's center on the Cost per Intelligence Index is not concerning for Liang Wenfeng. The leaked interview has him saying it doesn't matter... as much as open source doesn't matter. There's enough in it for everyone right now and they aren't after everything. Perspective: DeepSeek doesn't have enough infrastructure to serve their target customers already.

Can you post the link to the leaked interview? From what I understand he has been pretty tight lipped for a guy who has a larger stake worth more in his company than Dario does in Anthropic.

The culture is different, if you tried pulling any of the shit Sam and Dario do on a daily basis in China you'd get your wings clipped pretty quickly, much smarter to keep your head down as much as possible.

And maybe that's not a bad thing tbh because look at the state of the US right now

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