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This is more exciting than k3, IMO. Dsv4 models are extremely cheap to serve. Improving their capabilities has lots of downstream effects, as it becomes "good enough" for more and more tasks. DS was serving the pro version at extremely low prices for a long time, and they've had integrations with opencode & other providers, so they likely gathered a lot of data from real developers doing real tasks (on openrouter the…
DeepSeek V4 Flash (Preview → 2026-07-31) • Terminal Bench: 56.9 → 82.7 (+25.8) • Toolathlon: 51.8 → 70.3 (+18.5) Compared to GPT-5.6 Terra: • Terminal Bench: Flash 82.7 vs Terra 78.4 • Toolathlon: Flash 70.3 vs Terra 53.1 • DeepSWE: Flash 54.4 vs Terra 69.6 • Agents' Last Exam: Flash 25.2 vs Terra 50.4 Trading blows with Terra, which is pretty interesting. No clear winner on these benchmarks, and wildy differeing sco…
I admire DeepSeek's openness, but even they have been raising prices after their discounts.
DeepSeek V4 Flash (Preview → 2026-07-31) • Terminal Bench: 56.9 → 82.7 (+25.8) • Toolathlon: 51.8 → 70.3 (+18.5) Compared to GPT-5.6 Terra: • Terminal Bench: Flash 82.7 vs Terra 78.4 • Toolathlon: Flash 70.3 vs Terra 53.1 • DeepSWE: Flash 54.4 vs Terra 69.6 • Agents' Last Exam: Flash 25.2 vs Terra 50.4 Trading blows with Terra, which is pretty interesting. No clear winner on these benchmarks, and wildy differeing sco…
I wouldn't doubt GPT 4.6 Luna being in the top left quadrant's center on the Cost per Intelligence Index is not concerning for Liang Wenfeng. You have to remember DeepSeek v4 flash even though a bit cheaper, does not have vision abilities, which is a big draw for agentic tasks. I admire DeepSeek's openness, but even they have been raising prices after their discounts.
As for vision yeah it sucks but Luna is also 2x input and 1.5x output for 1M context...
That's around 0.4 in/1.8 out
DSv4 is wayyy cheaper.
And it's open now you have Luna at home if you have a decent set of GPUs you can run this on 2Sparks or one very expensive Mac or just like 6-8 5090s..
If those numbers translate well to its general capabilities, with the great caching DeepSeek has, I feel like this model will get tons of usage.
I wouldn't doubt GPT 4.6 Luna being in the top left quadrant's center on the Cost per Intelligence Index is not concerning for Liang Wenfeng. You have to remember DeepSeek v4 flash even though a bit cheaper, does not have vision abilities, which is a big draw for agentic tasks. I admire DeepSeek's openness, but even they have been raising prices after their discounts.
V4 flash cache read is $0.0028 per mtok
That's not "a bit cheaper", just saying
DeepSeek V4 Flash (Preview → 2026-07-31) • Terminal Bench: 56.9 → 82.7 (+25.8) • Toolathlon: 51.8 → 70.3 (+18.5) Compared to GPT-5.6 Terra: • Terminal Bench: Flash 82.7 vs Terra 78.4 • Toolathlon: Flash 70.3 vs Terra 53.1 • DeepSWE: Flash 54.4 vs Terra 69.6 • Agents' Last Exam: Flash 25.2 vs Terra 50.4 Trading blows with Terra, which is pretty interesting. No clear winner on these benchmarks, and wildy differeing sco…
Terra 87.4