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UEFA and its national associations will not participate in FIFA competitions

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Re: UEFA and its national associations will not participate in FIFA competitions

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Qatar#Slavery

Yes it's bad. Unfortunately a lot of countries are like this. Until we stop buying oil there's no way to make them change.

> Why?

>> Slavery

> Yes it's bad.

Are you just learning about the slavery or did you know about it when you asked why.

Re: UEFA and its national associations will not participate in FIFA competitions

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Isn't it a non profit too ? But you seem to imply it's going into individual's pockets ?

The non-profit makes no profit but it doesn’t mean those involved can’t make profits. An investment in a new jet for the boss is an investment back into the non-profit!

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Re: UEFA and its national associations will not participate in FIFA competitions

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> unprecedented amounts of corruption... Yes I hear about that a lot. Yuk But I also hear that FIFA puts a lot of resources into developing the game in African countries. I am asking: Is that true in your experience?

Look, it is pretty bullshit if you ask me. So it used to be that there were pre-tournament games, to qualify. A lot of countries... they wouldn't qualify. They'd play an ample amount of pre-tournament games though. Now, you seen more countries qualify, and you see countries who used to not qualify, dropping ASAP (in the deathmatch 16th matches, right after poule). So what did we get out of that? A few matches during…

>>* We want to see fair-play, with a meaningful VAR which can be called by the captain or coach of each team twice (getting back their call if agreed on).

I am not sure what your problem with Argentina is, but with a meaningful VAR, Cucurella would have been sent off and Enzo Fernandez would have stayed on the pitch. I am sick of the anti-Argentina racist campaign. Just follow the amount of yellow and red cards they were given in their last three games in the WC.

Re: UEFA and its national associations will not participate in FIFA competitions

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While I agree with your view on hydration breaks, I have to disagree that 48 teams was a bad thing. It led to wonderful stories like Cape Verde (and their goalie) who were competitive against Argentina. They wouldn’t even have qualified under the old system. We saw Congo almost beat England (again, a non-qualifier in the old days). Conversely, scoring goals is exciting and Germany’s 7-1 over Curaçao let us see some a…

More teams means only big nations can be the host venue.

Hosting is a financial disaster for smaller countries (economically, like Brazil), it’s a good thing if they can’t host them.

Re: UEFA and its national associations will not participate in FIFA competitions

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CONCACAF join UEFA and reject FIFA's World Cup sell-off plan. https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/49488584/uefa-boycott... . By the end of this Gianni Infantino will only be left with the Africans .I am African and these Federations will do anything to keep him around because of the unprecedented amounts of corruption...

My own frustration isn't corruption per se, a state cannot exist without it - at least not for long, but how cheap African corruption is in general. Others may require considerable resources and billions perhaps. Not here. Just a few Land Rover discoverys for key officials and a scholarship for their kids in Europe is all that is required to sell a whole state. To say nothing of a sporting organization.

It's not cheap to them. You have to adjust for purchasing power - the US dollar goes a lot farther in most African countries than it does in the US. That Land Rover, if sold on the open market, could yield enough for a Nigerian live the rest of their life in Lagos without having to work. An equivalent-purchasing-power bribe in the US would be on the order of several million USD.

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The Super League was a wonderful idea! Imagine watching the best teams in Europe playing each other multiple nights a week for months on end! Instead you’d rather watch 1 or 2 teams spend 10x more than anyone else and dominate the league every season. How is that fun or exciting? Would you rather watch a Bayern v Bremen match or a Bayern v Chelsea match? Or PSG, is it fun watching them not even bother playing their b…

Easy: it was going to be a (mostly) closed competition. Competition gets boring real fast when it is always the same handful of teams. When there are no real consequences to losing, winning becomes meaningless. Bayern v Chelsea matches stop being as interesting when every game is a Bayern v Chelsea match and most of them have no real impact either way. On the other hand, football becomes most interesting when it's a…

That’s the same justification my German friend made. I guess it’s American viewpoint vs European. The Super League would have been like the NFL in the US, where every team can beat any other any given night. That’s much more appealing to me, but to each their own.

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Argentina received more yellow cards on its last three games. How is that a "free pass"? Cucurella should have been sent off, same as the Paraguay player for covering his mouth. Fernandez did get a yellow card for a very light challenge that he tried to avoid.. All the Argentina haters need to look at the facts. I expected more from HN.

Messi should've gotten red in the Algeria match (same ref who didn't have the balls to give star player a card, was doing the finals). Against England, Argentina were playing rugby again, and the ref just let it pass. Against Egypt, Egypt got a goal disqualified which.. was a goal. Against Switzerland, a rule of identity mismatch was used wrongly (it can only be applied on same team). Argentina was lucky to end the f…

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I follow a local team and don’t really follow the larger picture, but injuries are sponsored, i always thought that would produce a perverse incentive. EDIT: not sure why i’m getting downvoted, they post up the injured player on the screens with a private medical company prominently displayed.

Because there is no incentive for the players? Who do you think is incentivized and how does that cause a player to get injured?

Perhaps the ref may turn a blind eye?

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This is so highly unusual even sports-allergic HN wants to discuss it. It's like a religious schism in some sense.

It's about brazen corruption in one of the world's most famous institutions. Taking an interest in it isn't as irrational as all that.

FIFA Gate corruption was in 2015. The new problem is business.

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_FIFA_corruption_case

Re: UEFA and its national associations will not participate in FIFA competitions

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I am not sure a replacement for Infantino is enough. It seems like FIFA has a culture of corruption and Infantino is merely the latest manifestation of said culture. Some serious reform and restructuring seem needed.

> It seems like FIFA has a culture of corruption I think any large multi-national organisation that deals with handing out events that generate vast sums of money inevitably succumbs to the rot. See also: the IOC.

Reminiscent of the resource curse, the observation that many countries "blessed" with an abundance of natural resources actually fare pretty badly (including lots of corruption).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resource_curse

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