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Read this before you buy that TV streaming stick

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Re: Read this before you buy that TV streaming stick

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Stremio+TorBox are the two words. ($3/month)

That's not what these things are. They come preloaded with apps that stream pirate broadcast streams and on-demand servers operated out of China.

Absolutely correct. My comment intention was if you want to make one yourself and get the experience of all shows +movies.

Re: Read this before you buy that TV streaming stick

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post #92

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There are a ton of legitimately free IPTV streams. You can watch them through most media players like VLC without having to download anything shady. https://github.com/iptv-org/iptv

That is chock-full of pirated content.

Most of it seems to be first-party streams of content which is also available as unencrypted over-the-air broadcasts.

It is paid for via ads or subsidies, so there's no reason to block access to the stream, so they just don't bother, and make life easier for anyone building streaming devices wanting to integrate their channel.

Someone accessing the stream directly is not the originally intended use case, but it isn't any different from someone accessing it via their smart tv.

Re: Read this before you buy that TV streaming stick

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I bet this is much broader than we all realized because just earlier today I was reading on https://gist.github.com/probonopd/3ad6b7777caea1503f00d5fe77... in order to tinker with a cheap (like really cheap) Android video projector : "Device: Magcubic HY300 Pro Android Projector (ui_Veng.projector) Issue: Device was being used as a residential proxy node without consent, causing thousands of suspicious DNS requests a…

Oh wow that's the same projector I have. Would be really cool to install a custom build on it, but for now I just have an Apple TV connected to it.

Re: Read this before you buy that TV streaming stick

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> generic TV boxes that promise unlimited content streaming for a one-time fee I don't want to blame the purchasers of these things - who are some of the victims - but at the same time, it does seem like a Too Good To Be True situation.

I had a streaming piracy site that I went to federal prison for. I can chime in on these people.

It's worth separating the two populations:

My users had money and had considered legal subscriptions. They paid me because the legal product was worse—in my case, sports blackouts, a bunch of different apps, etc. They knew what they were buying into and they had weighed the risk. I can tell you right now some of my former users have bought into this market.

Then there's the unwitting: a person buying one of these devices at a too-good-to-be-true price is treating it as a hardware purchase from Amazon, where the actual monetization isn't inferable from the listing. Calling it too good to be true assumes the buyer can see what shit they're standing in. They can't. There's no visible market here. It's just a product page with reviews.

To add to this: the proxy exit is exactly why these cost so little. Demand for residential IPs is booming (check some of the proxy subreddits to see what I mean).

The ironic part is that there's a chance the person who bought one of these boxes to watch pirated sports was the exit node I was using to acquire the feeds in the first place.

Re: Read this before you buy that TV streaming stick

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Defrauding ad networks doesn't seem like a bad thing, although using my internet connection as a proxy is obviously terrible. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that my connection is being sold as a VPN service by the vendor.

Fraud is also bad, even if you aren't fond of those being defrauded.

So distilling an AI model of one of the big SOTA models is a bad thing now?

Re: Read this before you buy that TV streaming stick

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post #44

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why is running a proxy a bad thing? someone profiting off it could be bad maybe, but even that is good if it pays for my subscription. but compare running tor nodes, and especially exit nodes. that surely would be a good thing, so at least if you think tor is good then running a proxy should be the same and it should be normalized. doing it in secret without the user knowing is what's bad

https://lwn.net/Articles/1080822/ Do you really want to be a part of the scraper problem?

From the outside, I don't see the problem. The sites I visit, including LWN, never seem slow or have downtime as a result of this increase in traffic. I hear complaints from people hosting small sites, but they never seem to include concrete examples of downtime or measurably bad user experience. Why does it matter if the server load is high if everything stays functioning? Going from 5-20% to 60-80% load hardly seems like a catastrophe to me when the remaining headroom was not going to be used for anything else. Having your data that's public-enough to be scraped/cited/parodied/ridiculed included in a training set also doesn't seem like a problem. Are they struggling to pay bandwidth usage bills? Is there some actually-necessary intervention required to keep things running smooth, as opposed to panicking and taking unnecessary preventative action?

Re: Read this before you buy that TV streaming stick

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Got myself a mi box with a custom launcher. Way better than any other Smart TV out there. Unless there's a smart tv that does not show ads right on the fing front page.

Anyway, the box is powerful enough to do several things. You can install a IP tv if you want. If you don't, you still have a pretty good media center (you can hook up an external hd on it)

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