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UEFA and its national associations will not participate in FIFA competitions

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Post by notahacker »

lossolo wrote: post #167
glitchc wrote: post #32

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FIFA made $~15 billion USD this World Cup, roughly double what they made in Qatar in 2022. There are many low-hanging fruit that can be optimized to increase that revenue by 10x.

> There are many low-hanging fruit that can be optimized to increase that revenue by 10x. The $15 billion figure is for FIFA's ENTIRE 2023-2026 revenue cycle, so not just this World Cup. But the obvious "low-hanging fruit" was making the tournamenta lot larger (104 matches instead of Qatar's 64), so a lot more tickets, hospitality sales, ads etc Also two 3 minute hydration breaks per match, giving broadcasters additi…

Yeah, I can see them doubling that revenue by being even more extortionate with ticket prices and adding another 16 teams (as already planned to happen) to add more games.

But the only way they 10x is to start running more FIFA competitions, and that's when they encroach on UEFA's cash cows...

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Post by gorbachev »

shmuli9 wrote: post #16

About time Hard to think of a modern institution as corrupt as fifa. That may not bother too many people because it’s not their government, but I just think it stinks

The Olympic Committee comes pretty close, maybe even ahead of FIFA.

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Post by woodpanel »

tverbeure wrote: post #109
coffeebeqn wrote: post #23

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I don’t know whos on Infantinos side on this

There are 200+ participating countries. Many of those are on his side, because they’re tiny and easy to bribe: a few million is significant for them and often that money can be siphoned into corrupt pockets. That said, a World Cup without any of the 55 UEFA countries wouldn’t make sense commercially.

Its not just tinyness and poorness of the countries – it is also the indifference of many nations. Just because, say Brunei has the same voice as France, it does not mean that the sport, or the national team's performance is important enough for their people to care or even notice if their representatives are selling their nation's voice to the highest bidder.

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Post by sizzzzlerz »

monooso wrote: post #307
sizzzzlerz wrote: post #131

Somewhere in this fetid swamp of corruption, you just know the trump crime syndicate has its greasy hands on the pie.

> If approval is granted, Fifa says Thrive Eternal is expected to lead the proposed investor group for FFE. > Thrive is an American venture capital firm founded by Joshua Kushner - the brother of US President Donald Trump's son-in-law Jared. Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c5y67zrrdddo

I thought I smelled something.

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Post by [deleted] »

skywhopper wrote: post #287
Vinnl wrote: post #248

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CONCACAF statement: https://www.concacaf.com/competitions/concacaf/news/statemen...

This statement is weak and wishy-washy compared to the blunt UEFA statement. Kudos to Europe. Here’s hoping CONCACAF can get brave enough to take the moral stance as well.

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Post by ThatMedicIsASpy »

tzs wrote: post #285
another-dave wrote: post #220

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The fact that you had 'hydration breaks' in enclosed, fully air-conditioned stadiums is very telling.

An argument I've heard is that since hydration breaks can affect the game, if you are going to have them they should be mandatory and at the same time in all games in a tournament rather than doing them like they did when they were originally introduced in 2014. Then they were only done in games when the conditions on the field got dangerous.

I can't remember this sports without a hydration break (half time). So they've been mandatory for a long time.

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Post by ifwinterco »

worik wrote: post #264
madradavid wrote: post #208

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CONCACAF join UEFA and reject FIFA's World Cup sell-off plan. https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/49488584/uefa-boycott... . By the end of this Gianni Infantino will only be left with the Africans .I am African and these Federations will do anything to keep him around because of the unprecedented amounts of corruption...

> unprecedented amounts of corruption... Yes I hear about that a lot. Yuk But I also hear that FIFA puts a lot of resources into developing the game in African countries. I am asking: Is that true in your experience?

And strangely a very high percentage of those resources get converted into mansions and yachts

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Post by ifwinterco »

overfeed wrote: post #82
glitchc wrote: post #32

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FIFA made $~15 billion USD this World Cup, roughly double what they made in Qatar in 2022. There are many low-hanging fruit that can be optimized to increase that revenue by 10x.

I didn't realize the commercial-block-sized "hydration breaks" were that profitable. For a second, I thought the Americanization[1] of fùtbol would be done gradually and no one would complain as we'd be slowly boiled. I'm glad the corrupt bastards got greedy/impatient and took a big swing. 1. Sports primarily as a business, catering to owners first, sponsors second, broadcasters third, and then lastly, fans. IMO non-…

It is absolutely outrageous that FIFA unilaterally changed the structure of a football match (that’s been the same since the nineteenth century) with no consultation, just so they could show ads

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Post by CodingJeebus »

glitchc wrote: post #214
CodingJeebus wrote: post #66

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50 of the 55 member UEFA states took the floor to express their outrage at FIFA, this is not a matter of UEFA leadership being out of touch. The vast majority of the confederation is ready to walk.

I understand that this is a principled stand by UEFA, no doubt about it. But the amount of money in the offering is too large for the clubs (and their superstars) to snub their noses at it. When it comes down to money, principles are the first to be bought and sold.

I don't think you do understand, because the nation associations involved (not clubs) have resoundingly rejected this plan. First UEFA has announced their complete boycott, now CONCACAF has rejected it. This is DOA and Infantino just gave the delegation a huge reason to run a candidate against him in the upcoming elections.

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Post by ifwinterco »

an0malous wrote: post #103
DeRock wrote: post #71

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There is nothing this family does not see as an opportunity for corruption. Comically evil.

as an opportunity for profit* I think it’s important to clarify the incentives at play, people are rarely evil for the sake of being evil

The thing is though, they’re already outrageously rich.

At some point you genuinely are just being dodgy purely for the love of the game

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