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Gemini Robotics 2 brings whole body intelligence to robots

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Re: Gemini Robotics 2 brings whole body intelligence to robots

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Post by nevir »

Centigonal wrote: post #330
canyon289 wrote: post #211

I'm a researcher at Deepmind that contributed to these models. (And the opinions here are my own) Just want to say, Deepmind is a great place to work and the only (Edit: one the few unique labs!) lab where you can move from large frontier models (Gemini), frontier open models (Gemma), robotics (what you see here), science (weather, biology, more) and basically any other topic related to intelligence. It's really an i…

Important question: how many engineers does it take to teach a robot how to screw in a light bulb?

...and how many people to label all of the examples?

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Post by heaney-555 »

xnx wrote: post #269
heaney-555 wrote: post #231

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What does that have to do with margins?

Not many people would pay $62K for a Tesla Model Y if they could get a BYD Sealion for $37K.

Do you know what 'margins' means?

And even in markets where BYD Sealion is sold - including China - Tesla Model Y outsells it!

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Post by drusepth »

Razengan wrote: post #326
CaptWorld wrote: post #325

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Lol.. why do people ask employees this stuff as though they're the ones controlling big decisions?

"Just following orders" is how some of the worst shit in human history went down. They're literally CREATING the tech and tools and you're saying don't even question them about potential and proven misuse?? lol They're the first people that should be asked this question.

I don't think OP's "Why do people ask employees this stuff" question implies you _shouldn't_ ask, but rather wonders why people even ask when you're obviously not going to get an answer (and if you do, it'll be a non-answer filtered through PR/HR/MR/etc).

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Post by pants2 »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #282
JeremyNT wrote: post #258

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It's certainly an odd situation where Google is on the forefront of all these emerging technologies while the latest chatbots from OpenAI and Anthropic are getting breathless press releases and wildly hyperbolic coverage ("rogue AIs" "too dangerous, must be banned" etc...) Google acting like a normal but competent company that's just chugging away, meanwhile the hype cycle is propping up its upstart competitors to tr…

> Google acting like a normal but competent company that's just chugging away Competent is a stretch. Google's AI offering seems to be, once again, PM led–lots of constantly-changing brands being merged and deprecated with zero customer support or service. They'll almost certainly be one of the survivors. Their technical competece is unmatched. But that doesn't mean they have a great product in the way both OpenAI an…

After all this time it's still a pain point just to pay them for a Gemini API key.

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Post by KellyCriterion »

nevir wrote: post #351
Centigonal wrote: post #330

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Important question: how many engineers does it take to teach a robot how to screw in a light bulb?

...and how many people to label all of the examples?

...and do not forget Support, Maintenance and that you will need an forever Cloud-connection...

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Post by titzer »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #282
JeremyNT wrote: post #258

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It's certainly an odd situation where Google is on the forefront of all these emerging technologies while the latest chatbots from OpenAI and Anthropic are getting breathless press releases and wildly hyperbolic coverage ("rogue AIs" "too dangerous, must be banned" etc...) Google acting like a normal but competent company that's just chugging away, meanwhile the hype cycle is propping up its upstart competitors to tr…

> Google acting like a normal but competent company that's just chugging away Competent is a stretch. Google's AI offering seems to be, once again, PM led–lots of constantly-changing brands being merged and deprecated with zero customer support or service. They'll almost certainly be one of the survivors. Their technical competece is unmatched. But that doesn't mean they have a great product in the way both OpenAI an…

Google has never been good at supporting developers, and it absolutely loathes end users. Support for everything that is not their ad ecosystem is miserable. There's never any long term plan, everything gets deprecated and bitrots.

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Post by ddfarmr »

xnx wrote: post #133

While Anthropic and Open AI get 80% of the attention here, it's impressive to see how much Google is doing: near frontier model, fast models, open weight models, image generation, video generation, music generation, robotics, etc.

I recommend reading „The Infinity Machine: Demis Hassabis, DeepMind, and the Quest for Superintelligence“ from Sebastian Mallaby. It offers a detailed glimpse into the reasons behind your observation regarding Google/DeepMind and the other frontier labs. best book I read so far on my current vacation.

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Post by overlords »

wartywhoa23 wrote: post #294
sib wrote: post #287

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As a person in my 50's with a parent in her 80's, this would be incredibly useful right now. And I've got many, many friends in similar situations.

Fucking hell, hiring a robot to care after an elderly parent. Now that's some disturbing shit.

have you ever bathed or changed diaper on old people?

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Post by fidotron »

RajT88 wrote: post #220
fidotron wrote: post #156

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Humans have emotions. Best avoided.

It's been said that people who do not have a high EQ gravitate towards tech, because machines are easier to understand than people.

It's been said that people that say this are transparently trying to manipulate other people, which is why the others prefer to cut off all potential for tedious negotiations.

This is the same reason people prefer buying Tesla cars direct instead of having to make a deal at a dealership. If they all had high EQ maybe they'd prefer the dealership model after all.

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Post by jader201 »

nancyminusone wrote: post #327
jader201 wrote: post #277

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Vehicles, when first invented, were 100% a luxury, not a necessity. They only became a “necessity” once they went mainstream and the world started evolving with vehicles becoming a part of everyday life. I can certainly see the same thing happening with residential robotics.

Only way I can see that happening is if you somehow get fired for not folding your laundry, in the same way people are fired when their car breaks and they can't make it to work.

At some point, household robots — once they become mainstream — can do things around the home that you depend on, and if/when they break down, prevent you from being able to work/get to work.

Or, if the stress of doing everything they do is too much, and interferes with your ability to work and do other things you once had the time to do.

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