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UEFA and its national associations will not participate in FIFA competitions

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Re: UEFA and its national associations will not participate in FIFA competitions

#81

Infantino clearly wants to see FIFA making billions so he and many others can pocket millions legally. But the only way for this to happen in a non-corrupt way, given that FIFA is non-profit and therefore requires a lot of questionable operations, is to turn FIFA into a business like NFL / MLS. The problem with that is that it then it is no longer a sport, rather a... business. UEFA letter is spot on.

They just made $15bn.

Re: UEFA and its national associations will not participate in FIFA competitions

#82
post #32

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What's new? I thought it has been known as a big-money thing for some time now.

FIFA made $~15 billion USD this World Cup, roughly double what they made in Qatar in 2022. There are many low-hanging fruit that can be optimized to increase that revenue by 10x.

I didn't realize the commercial-block-sized "hydration breaks" were that profitable.

For a second, I thought the Americanization[1] of fùtbol would be done gradually and no one would complain as we'd be slowly boiled. I'm glad the corrupt bastards got greedy/impatient and took a big swing.

1. Sports primarily as a business, catering to owners first, sponsors second, broadcasters third, and then lastly, fans. IMO non-profit sports organizations are the best model for fans, who I identify the most with.

Re: UEFA and its national associations will not participate in FIFA competitions

#83
post #5

It's crazy that as despicable an organization as UEFA is, they're still far better than FIFA. Infantino has been a disgrace, I hope they manage to get rid of him, but I have very little hope.

I don't follow any sport, but I actually don't understand why UEFA and FIFA are non-profits when all the American leagues (MLB, NBA, NFL) are for-profit corporations. It seems to work well in America.

Re: UEFA and its national associations will not participate in FIFA competitions

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Why would anyone be in favour of more ad breaks?

I'm not arguing for ad breaks, I'm saying non-fans would not even be aware this is something new. This is the thing that is too much? I just don't get it. The entire thing is a spectacle to sell ads.

In almost every part of the world, all people know some basic things about football (and I do mean the one where you kick a ball with the foot), like it has two halves of 45 minutes.

Re: UEFA and its national associations will not participate in FIFA competitions

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Of all the things wrong with the World Cup, the most inconsequential ones - hydration breaks and the final half-time show - have attracted the most griping.

The VAR calls 5 minutes after the fact were the most bothersome thing to me

… and the 9+’ stoppage for every match.

Re: UEFA and its national associations will not participate in FIFA competitions

#87

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Well, FIFA is also an European organization. Swiss, to be exact.

Sorry to be a pedant, while switzerland is in the european landmass, it is not a member of the EU.

Sorry to be a pedant too but no one said EU.

Re: UEFA and its national associations will not participate in FIFA competitions

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Of all the things wrong with the World Cup, the most inconsequential ones - hydration breaks and the final half-time show - have attracted the most griping.

Changing the pauses of the game alters the momentum and, as consequence, the results. How is that “inconsequential”? There have been cases of corrupted referees before, but violating the Laws of the Game in plain sight is an unprecedented attack on the sport.

I can agree that it definitely makes it a different game/playstyle but I'm still not sure if it's guaranteed worse. Putting ads during the break is obviously bad and a cash grab but from a gameplay perspective, it's not clear that a short break during the half is necessarily worse.

Re: UEFA and its national associations will not participate in FIFA competitions

#89
post #37

FIFA is just upholding western values. Profit, exploitation and money over everything else. They with FIA and likes are just showing the world what truly matters for western world.

Put it this way - Europeans don't generally call themselves from "the West" in 2026 - it's an American geopolitical fantasy.

Re: UEFA and its national associations will not participate in FIFA competitions

#90
post #62

Infantino clearly wants to see FIFA making billions so he and many others can pocket millions legally. But the only way for this to happen in a non-corrupt way, given that FIFA is non-profit and therefore requires a lot of questionable operations, is to turn FIFA into a business like NFL / MLS. The problem with that is that it then it is no longer a sport, rather a... business. UEFA letter is spot on.

FIFA is also a terrible employer Got friends working for them as developers. They ran away. In months

Are you talking about EA or FIFA?
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