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Read this before you buy that TV streaming stick

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Re: Read this before you buy that TV streaming stick

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Generally, it's advisable to create a dedicated wifi network for all potentially hostile devices. This dedicated wifi network can just be connecting your devices to your guest wifi while you figure it out, and limiting the rate of speed as needed. That can be cameras, tv's, thermostats, tv sticks and anything else that might not only call home, but actively scope what you have in your home network when it's none of i…

I don't think this would make a big difference for the threat model described in the OP? They'd still be able to use your IP Address and potentially do nefarious things through your role as an unwitting proxy.

Re: Read this before you buy that TV streaming stick

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I do not see problems with fake ad clicks and have no sympathy for ad companies. Also pre-installed adware is not a surprise, I found adware in the official firmware image of a certain Chinese tablet. What worries me much more is backdoors from the foreign companies and governments that can be pre-installed at the factory to collect intelligence information. For example, I became aware that a certain maker of a popul…

The problem is that when you need these powers most as a citizen is when your government is least likely to allow it.

Re: Read this before you buy that TV streaming stick

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I have an elderly client who sends me links of stuff to buy all the time. One day it's one of these streaming sticks, the next day it's half-price stamps, and I tell her every time, please don't buy this stuff. And yet she does anyway, as if I was almost being mean and saying no just to say no. So yes, I do want to blame the purchasers of these things, sometimes. To prove her point that her stamps were legitimate, sh…

Perhaps they grew up in a time/environment where "if it was that bad they wouldn't be allowed to advertise it", and they're still using that old calibration?

My falther-in-law was less that and more, if I can get away with it, it's actually legal. Many know their fake, and do it because they can get away with it.

That was his justification for a satellite descrambler, they're sending me the signals, obviously I'm allowed to.

Re: Read this before you buy that TV streaming stick

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My understanding is that Roku bypasses DNS blocking with hardcoded tables so it can report back on various data they track on you.

Can you monitor its traffic and block by IP?

I probably could, but haven't done so yet.

Re: Read this before you buy that TV streaming stick

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> major e-commerce providers like Amazon, Best Buy, Newegg and others continue to sell hundreds of different models and brands that bundle unofficial versions of Google’s Android operating system and are frequently marketed (via online influencers) as a way to access a broad array of streaming services and live broadcasts without a subscription.

This is why I giggle when people talk about ending Section 230 in the USA (or various international counterparts thereof).

The largest companies on Earth are happily selling hacked piracy spyware botnet garbage. Not just hosting malicious posts for free like Section 230 protects, but selling illegal physical devices and taking a cut of the profit and excusing it with a pathetic whack-a-mole moderation system. It's already illegal and the law has already failed.

Sean Parker's mistake was that he wasn't rich enough.

Laws are for poor people.

Re: Read this before you buy that TV streaming stick

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> generic TV boxes that promise unlimited content streaming for a one-time fee I don't want to blame the purchasers of these things - who are some of the victims - but at the same time, it does seem like a Too Good To Be True situation.

I have an elderly client who sends me links of stuff to buy all the time. One day it's one of these streaming sticks, the next day it's half-price stamps, and I tell her every time, please don't buy this stuff. And yet she does anyway, as if I was almost being mean and saying no just to say no. So yes, I do want to blame the purchasers of these things, sometimes. To prove her point that her stamps were legitimate, sh…

Then again I used to torrent everything under the sun and it actually rocks to have every tv show, movie, game ever released for free forever.

So is it greed? Yes, but I did it too so now that its more accessible I cannot really blame people.

Re: Read this before you buy that TV streaming stick

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have an elderly client who sends me links of stuff to buy all the time. One day it's one of these streaming sticks, the next day it's half-price stamps, and I tell her every time, please don't buy this stuff. And yet she does anyway, as if I was almost being mean and saying no just to say no. So yes, I do want to blame the purchasers of these things, sometimes. To prove her point that her stamps were legitimate, sh…

Perhaps they grew up in a time/environment where "if it was that bad they wouldn't be allowed to advertise it", and they're still using that old calibration?

Of course, what they're missing is that laws are for poor people.

Amazon will be notified they sold something illegal and will take it down and ban the seller who will immediately launch a new store under a new name.

The purchaser, on the other hand, will be fully liable for whatever horrible thing they bought.

Re: Read this before you buy that TV streaming stick

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No, and that's is the root of the problem. The buyer is happy and so is the seller. They don't care to understand what they're allowing and everyone is allowing it to happen.

They're just meeting the standards American society has set.

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