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I'm 38 and I Can't Support Myself Anymore

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Re: I'm 38 and I Can't Support Myself Anymore

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You're avoiding saying what you actually think society is for while saying I'm selfish, and then bailing on a discussion you started by calling people you don't know psychopaths. I didn't say anything about you personally, so that seems exceptionally rude to me. Although it must be nice being able to make only good decisions in your life, wish I knew how to do that. Were you born with that ability or was it taught to…

I make, have made, and will most definitely make plenty of bad decisions. The difference is that accept responsibility for their consequences rather than electing to yell at the clouds.

No one said people shouldn't accept responsibility for bad decisions and accept consequences. My contention is that the consequence of a bad decision shouldn't be condemnation. You've had the opportunity to actually take accountability and correct your bad decisions no? What gave you that opportunity?

And if society is not meant to help people when they're down, what's it for? You still haven't given your take despite calling everyone else out on theirs.

Re: I'm 38 and I Can't Support Myself Anymore

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I make, have made, and will most definitely make plenty of bad decisions. The difference is that accept responsibility for their consequences rather than electing to yell at the clouds.

No one said people shouldn't accept responsibility for bad decisions and accept consequences. My contention is that the consequence of a bad decision shouldn't be condemnation. You've had the opportunity to actually take accountability and correct your bad decisions no? What gave you that opportunity? And if society is not meant to help people when they're down, what's it for? You still haven't given your take despit…

> My contention is that the consequence of a bad decision shouldn't be condemnation.

Who said that? To pre-emptively respond before you misrepresent my position again, nobody said that the solution to people making bad decisions is condemnation. But when you go out all guns blazing and blaming everyone else (the system) - like the author of this blog post is doing - at least be prepared to receive some pushback.

> You've had the opportunity to actually take accountability and correct your bad decisions no?

Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

> What gave you that opportunity?

Sometimes luck, sometimes good risk mitigation, other times a mix of both.

Mind you, I'm not claiming all misfortune can be overcome, you might be struck by lighting tomorrow and there was nothing you could have done about it. But there are cases that some sacrifices (either financial or lifestyle) can lead to statistically better chances of overcoming hardship. If you haven't made any and hardship hits you then its unfair to make demands of the people that have made those sacrifices, that's all.

> And if society is not meant to help people when they're down, what's it for?

Identity & meaning, voluntary co-operation, exchange of goods and services. Protection against misfortune could be one of the components of a useful society, while you said "What's the point of society if not being a buffer for bad individual decisions?" which directly implies that someone cannot find any other point to society if it's lacking this property.

> You still haven't given your take despite calling everyone else out on theirs.

Why do you believe that everyone else has the same position as you do?

Moreover, why do you think that what I said has anything to do with your position? I only called out as a psychopath anyone who believes they are entitled to somebody else's labour - do you actually believe that yourself or do you consider that particular belief as a logical extension of your position? If the latter, please logically demonstrate and if convinced by your reasoning I'll apologize.

Then I called your view of society selfish (not you a selfish person as a whole), why do you tink everyone else believes the sole point of society is a buffer for bad decisions? I haven't seen anyone on this topic claiming this except you.

Re: I'm 38 and I Can't Support Myself Anymore

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> Roughly 20% of undergraduate students at Ivy Plus institutions (including Harvard, Brown, and Cornell) are registered as disabled and receive accommodations. This figure has surged dramatically over time, rising from fewer than 3% at Harvard and under 6% at Cornell in 2015. That seems to check out with the period people started getting more addicted to social media, pandemic side-effects and increased awareness of…

> Hard disagree tbh but that's more of a personal values discussion I'm curious about this. Do you have children? Do you look at someone who does nothing hard in his life with indifference? Someone chooses to spend their life playing video games in their parent's basement. Do you think that's an equally admirable life than someone that spends his life doing hard things?

> Do you have children?

Not yet, but hopefully in the next 3 years.

> Do you look at someone who does nothing hard in his life with indifference?

I look at such people with admiration. Being in peace with not trying to improve their own productivity all the time is a beautiful virtue.

> Someone chooses to spend their life playing video games in their parent's basement. Do you think that's an equally admirable life than someone that spends his life doing hard things?

I'd go further and say it's more admirable than someone spending their life doing hard things. If they reached their goals with less effort, I'm happy for them - that means more time and energy to spend on the pursue of happiness.

> I'm curious about this.

Why did that catch your attention, if you don't mind me asking?

Re: I'm 38 and I Can't Support Myself Anymore

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Restoring something that was lost is very, very different than creating something that hasn't been done before.

Why?

Broadly speaking, anything that's been done once is doable again; anything that hasn't been done before might not be possible.

Concretely: if the author's perception that a capitalist/calvinist fusion robbed us of/distorted something is true, that he could have existed in a society outside of this shadow in a way he'd find acceptable...that's a very different story than him longing for a world that has never existed.

>Even just capitalism with more regulation and safety nets (the ones most countries implement don't work very well) would suffice here.

You speak very matter-of-factly, and you might be right, but in reality this is only a hypothesis! Maybe more regulation has a tipping point at which it starts to do more harm than good. Maybe if safety nets are too strong they create perverse incentives.

Re: I'm 38 and I Can't Support Myself Anymore

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This is a very sad story, especially on the health side. But rhe fact they keep going on about capitalism demonstrates their main problem. In reality we don't live in capitalism or neoliberalism, but a space where government legislation and taxation determines most things, and if you think more of the same is going to magically solve things, you've been sold a pup. It's hard to start a business (capitalism) mainly be…

Corporations owning the government is a part of capitalism.

Then we don't live in this Capitalism either. Corporations and governments cooperate, but most of the final power is on the government still.

Re: I'm 38 and I Can't Support Myself Anymore

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Sounds like Sartre didn't respect your kind, or am I misreading it? He is the one using the words responsibly and you are the one who made a frivolous remark. Sounds like you also don't respect your own kind.

Do you have specific evidence of an educational institution that added "gender studies" and concurrently removed "personal finance, economics, and rational decision making?" Because that's what meta_gunslinger claimed while you say he was using words "responsibly". Who do you think "my own kind" are, anyhow?

Not sure about specifically gender studies, but DEI-related stuff was mandated in California universities at the cost of social sciences category that includes economics.

https://www.calstate.edu/impact-of-the-csu/diversity/advance...

Re: I'm 38 and I Can't Support Myself Anymore

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There's definitely a non-libertarian approach to "free market capitalism" that does not eschew regulation and does embrace ethics.

Maybe but at that point we're arguing the definition of a free market.

I thought we were doing that all along.

Re: I'm 38 and I Can't Support Myself Anymore

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You do not get equity from your comoany?

Pff, what? No. You're in a super small bubble if you think earning equity in your employer's company is standard.

My recommendation is that you ask for equity, even if a small amount.

Justify it based on the risk of the labor market and your work done.

Re: I'm 38 and I Can't Support Myself Anymore

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This thought pattern of "I will die if I don't work" comes up so often. The streets are not filled with bodies. There are people who are chronically unemployed, and women who left the workforce to care for their children and never returned/returned after 15 years, and they're not dead... There are a lot more ways of living in the world than our main story here in the West.

We do tend to take away the bodies from the streets.

I doubt removing lots of bodies every month would go unnoticed, but maybe that way of living is a bit invisible to the 'normal way' (whatever that may mean) of living.

Re: I'm 38 and I Can't Support Myself Anymore

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Yeah, disability accommodation like having single dorm room and being allowed to cook for themselves rather then using cantine. Maybe the question is why the cantine is obligatory anyway.

Is there a name for the phenomenon in which you look at something and know that there is something wrong with it but struggle to identify the problem? I got this feeling looking at the (non)word cantine.

Wiktionary lists cantine as an archaic form of canteen, also the french word that canteen came from is also spelled cantine.
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