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Toot.community is shutting down

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Re: Toot.community is shutting down

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> There’s also the financial side. I’m very grateful to everyone who donated, but donations haven’t covered costs for a long time. I’ve had to shoulder most of the expenses, time, and responsibility myself.

One of the main issues of running a federated Mastodon instance with little to no money and donations will not cut it.

Re: Toot.community is shutting down

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> There’s also the financial side. I’m very grateful to everyone who donated, but donations haven’t covered costs for a long time. I’ve had to shoulder most of the expenses, time, and responsibility myself. One of the main issues of running a federated Mastodon instance with little to no money and donations will not cut it.

This is why I host a personal instance. The overheard for moderation and costs is much lower. It also means if I tire of this, migrating my content is easier.

Re: Toot.community is shutting down

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> There’s also the financial side. I’m very grateful to everyone who donated, but donations haven’t covered costs for a long time. I’ve had to shoulder most of the expenses, time, and responsibility myself. One of the main issues of running a federated Mastodon instance with little to no money and donations will not cut it.

he's taking his ball and going home, the financial aspect isn't load bearing (god damn claude ruined this) in his decision, it's a rationalization. if it were significant, he wouldn't refuse to hand it over to someone who still wants to do it.

Re: Toot.community is shutting down

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don't forget to `tootctl self-destruct`

https://docs.joinmastodon.org/admin/tootctl/#self-destruct

EDIT: Once the server disappears, users who did nothing will lose the ability to delete their accounts later.

Without self-destruct, remote servers may retain cached profiles and posts indefinitely, but the original users will no longer control those objects. Mastodon created the command specifically to broadcast account deletions before a permanent shutdown and leave little cached material behind.

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> There’s also the financial side. I’m very grateful to everyone who donated, but donations haven’t covered costs for a long time. I’ve had to shoulder most of the expenses, time, and responsibility myself. One of the main issues of running a federated Mastodon instance with little to no money and donations will not cut it.

This is why I host a personal instance. The overheard for moderation and costs is much lower. It also means if I tire of this, migrating my content is easier.

this is why nostr beats mastodon. when the operator pitches a fit and shuts down, your community survives.

Re: Toot.community is shutting down

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don't forget to `tootctl self-destruct` https://docs.joinmastodon.org/admin/tootctl/#self-destruct EDIT: Once the server disappears, users who did nothing will lose the ability to delete their accounts later. Without self-destruct, remote servers may retain cached profiles and posts indefinitely, but the original users will no longer control those objects. Mastodon created the command specifically to broadcast accoun…

Is this desirable? This wipes other people's copies of their boosts, favourites, and bookmarked posts. If users want this behaviour, they can delete their own accounts.

Re: Toot.community is shutting down

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> There’s also the financial side. I’m very grateful to everyone who donated, but donations haven’t covered costs for a long time. I’ve had to shoulder most of the expenses, time, and responsibility myself. One of the main issues of running a federated Mastodon instance with little to no money and donations will not cut it.

he's taking his ball and going home, the financial aspect isn't load bearing (god damn claude ruined this) in his decision, it's a rationalization. if it were significant, he wouldn't refuse to hand it over to someone who still wants to do it.

A social media site isn't like a free software project. People are trusting you in a way that you cannot just hand over to another entity. (It's more like a SaaS business, in that way.) Some instances have managed it, but only to trusted community members, and never (to my knowledge) without some degree of strife.

Re: Toot.community is shutting down

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This is why I host a personal instance. The overheard for moderation and costs is much lower. It also means if I tire of this, migrating my content is easier.

this is why nostr beats mastodon. when the operator pitches a fit and shuts down, your community survives.

The tech is nice but sadly there's still not that many interesting accounts or content there unless you really want to read about Nostr and zaps all day.

I've tried many times, there's decent apps too these days (Primal) but unless you are heavily into that topic or crypto it's not very interesting.

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