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'VPNs are lawful technical tools,' says EU Court in landmark copyright ruling

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Re: 'VPNs are lawful technical tools,' says EU Court in landmark copyright ruling

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Post by inigyou »

1718627440 wrote: post #13
freedomben wrote: post #2

VPNs are just tools that sketchy people use for sketchy means. There's no legitimate use for someone who isn't trying to break the law. Allowing these tools let's underage people access porn, and do all manner of undesirable behaviors like accessing region locked content. I have actually heard otherwise intelligent people say things just like that, including site operators who run nontrivial websites. There are of co…

Logging into my work computer, to work in the company network: yeah very sketchy.

That isn't the one they're banning. The law isn't as autistic as nerds think it is.

Re: 'VPNs are lawful technical tools,' says EU Court in landmark copyright ruling

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Post by inigyou »

testfrequency wrote: post #17
freedomben wrote: post #2

VPNs are just tools that sketchy people use for sketchy means. There's no legitimate use for someone who isn't trying to break the law. Allowing these tools let's underage people access porn, and do all manner of undesirable behaviors like accessing region locked content. I have actually heard otherwise intelligent people say things just like that, including site operators who run nontrivial websites. There are of co…

TIL every corp in the world are sketchy people for using VPN.

That isn't what they're banning, and you know it.

Re: 'VPNs are lawful technical tools,' says EU Court in landmark copyright ruling

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Post by bee_rider »

freedomben wrote: post #97
bee_rider wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the poster agreed with the opinion, they wouldn’t have included “actually” (indicating that they think the reader will be feeling incredulous at that point) and “otherwise intelligent.”

Yes correct, I vehemently disagree with people who say things like the first paragraph. I definitely should have been more clear that that was not my opinion, but it's too late to edit now

Eh, I think I disagree. We should support a convention of reading all of the paragraphs to the posts we are responding to, not just the first one.

Re: 'VPNs are lawful technical tools,' says EU Court in landmark copyright ruling

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Post by Cider9986 »

mmooss wrote: post #102
KPGv2 wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just loaded up Bluesky this morning to discover it demanding proof of my age bc I live in Texas. First thing I did was turn on my out-of-state vpn and try again. not today, satan!

Instead of an out-of-state vpn, why not an out-of-state home? Why do people put up with the lack of freedom there? People complain about European countries but then praise states like Texas. (Realistically, moving is easier said than done, of course.)

A VPN is 5 dollars. People are not as privileged as you assume and very few chose their location based on age verification laws.

European countries have restrictions on freedom of speech which is a strongly held value in America.

Re: 'VPNs are lawful technical tools,' says EU Court in landmark copyright ruling

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Post by Arshad-Talpur »

mnahkies wrote: post #87
Arshad-Talpur wrote: post #58

First question that need to asked from everyone including ownself , why you need VPN?

Primary use I have for it is hosting internal services that I don't want on the public internet - do the same at work, it reduces the attack surface hugely

That is the exact thing , I asked that because its primary a personal choice, and I support EU regulator decision on it, If you need VPN for usage like keeping your personal information intact its perfect but if someone else is using for other purpose then again it should personal choice rather than government regulation ( this might not sound good to some).

Re: 'VPNs are lawful technical tools,' says EU Court in landmark copyright ruling

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Post by s5ma6n »

mrln wrote: post #110
red-iron-pine wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

if you didn't roll it yourself you need to assume that someone is snooping on you maybe mullvad is legit but their leadership keeps leaning to dubious causes

What do you mean with "leaning to dubious causes?" I was under the impression mullvad was fine.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48717469

Re: 'VPNs are lawful technical tools,' says EU Court in landmark copyright ruling

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Post by inigyou »

m00dy wrote: post #84

You can't do much with VPNs these days, almost any website now has antibot systems and it's actually kid's play to detect whether you are on VPN or not.

You can do a lot. Cloudflare doesn't want to ban all VPNs, not yet.
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