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You can't do much with VPNs these days, almost any website now has antibot systems and it's actually kid's play to detect whether you are on VPN or not.
The detection tech has been around forever: https://focsec.com/
First question that need to asked from everyone including ownself , why you need VPN?
Primary use I have for it is hosting internal services that I don't want on the public internet - do the same at work, it reduces the attack surface hugely
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if you didn't roll it yourself you need to assume that someone is snooping on you maybe mullvad is legit but their leadership keeps leaning to dubious causes
The point of VPNs often is hiding in the mass. Rolling your own kind of defeats that purpose.
Discussion on 21-jul-2026 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48997221 141 comments
Yeah. In particular for "hot" topics like this people should use the search function at the bottom of every HN page before rushing into post. The last thing everyone needs is yet another duplicate post with hundreds of comments re-hashing the exact same comments that people already made before. It is not helpful for anyone.
First question that need to asked from everyone including ownself , why you need VPN?
VPNs are just tools that sketchy people use for sketchy means. There's no legitimate use for someone who isn't trying to break the law. Allowing these tools let's underage people access porn, and do all manner of undesirable behaviors like accessing region locked content. I have actually heard otherwise intelligent people say things just like that, including site operators who run nontrivial websites. There are of co…
Probably should have put a `>` before the first paragraph, because it reads like an 8/8 bait and most people won't continue to the next one. Regarding the misleading podcast claims, at least all the podcast and youtube ads made the VPNs popular on the mass market so now they are more difficult to be silently outlawed.
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Or saying that his view is also shared by people he considers intelligent, and thus can only be rejected by others, who first need to proof to him, that they are actually intelligent. Aka. an indirect ad hominem.
If the poster agreed with the opinion, they wouldn’t have included “actually” (indicating that they think the reader will be feeling incredulous at that point) and “otherwise intelligent.”
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Most of the big VPN companies known from advertisments all over the internet are probably honeypots of the usual countries.
if you didn't roll it yourself you need to assume that someone is snooping on you maybe mullvad is legit but their leadership keeps leaning to dubious causes
That's the easy part. The harder part is to encourage people to be fearless, keep their mouth shut and let their lawyers do all the talking.
This is a very brief blog blurb linking the original Tech Radar article that got fairly extensive discussion on HN a week and a half ago [0]. Potentially quite an important one though so a second go around may still be very justified for those who missed it last time. Amidst a lot of negative moves around the net recently it's nice to see some sanity at least once in awhile. ---- 0: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?…
Yeah, please could everyone not pile in and start re-hashing the extensive comments that have already been made only a week and a half ago. Whatever you're thinking of posting has almost certainly already been said more than once on the original HN discussion.
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The point of VPNs often is hiding in the mass. Rolling your own kind of defeats that purpose.
Even very basic browser fingerprinting will still identify you. The IP address is just one of many data points.