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Re: Europe's fires are just the start

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Post by toasty228 »

andsoitis wrote: post #11
toasty228 wrote: post #2

As Macron said in 2023: "Who could have predicted the climate crisis?" The people in charge a either clinically retarded or willingly ignoring the problem, either way we're fucked, the point of no return is behind us now, this is the new normal, and it'll only get worse

> As Macron said in 2023: "Who could have predicted the climate crisis?" The people in charge a either clinically retarded or willingly ignoring the problem, The "people in charge" as well as the "climate experts" are generally aligned on the climate crisis, but everyone has been surprised by unexpected acceleration and the very sudden swings. Put differently, you can predict and act, according to the trend, but the…

> but everyone has been surprised by unexpected acceleration and the very sudden swings

It's been predicted for decades, in multiple reports, over and over and over and over again... No excuses

> can anyone predict specifically what will happen "next" and "where" and prepare to mitigate the impact?

Something bad, duh? And reduce emissions, duh?

The things people have been predicting and advocating for during the past like 50 years at that point. Are we still debating these details lol?

Re: Europe's fires are just the start

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Post by realusername »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #10
cbmuser wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As long as major countries like Germany are keeping their ban on nuclear power, climate change cannot be that urgent.

While I would agree that it is regrettable Germany sunset their nuclear early when they should've extended the runtime for another 5-10 years to avoid excess carbon emissions since shutdown, but clean energy has already surpassed coal in Germany and they will likely hit net zero in the next decade at current deployment rates of renewables and batteries. [My note: The US states of Illinois and California got this righ…

> they will likely hit net zero in the next decade at current deployment rates of renewables and batteries.

X to doubt, I'll believe it when I see it, for now they are like a galaxy away from that goal.

And also that'll be even harder to reach if they want to improve their atrociously low electricity heating rate.

Re: Europe's fires are just the start

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Post by toasty228 »

andsoitis wrote: post #14
palata wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed that the people in charge do nothing and don't understand the problem. However, the people in charge (e.g. in France) are elected by the people, and therefore represent it. Do you think that the far-right will care more about the climate crisis? The French people is likely to elect them next year. It's too easy to vote for people who don't give a shit about the climate crisis, and then blame them. > either way…

> We need to act now. What does this look like, precisely, in practice?

Find the closest maths teacher with a polish last name and ask them

Re: Europe's fires are just the start

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Post by alephnerd »

cbmuser wrote: post #7
palata wrote: post #4

There is no "new normal", we are in a slope. As long as we emit CO2, the climate will get worse. Year after year. With effects like fires accelerating it, or the loss of the Amazon (it's pretty much lost already, isn't it?) that will just result in more CO2 being released. We don't have to adapt to the situation as it is now , because it is pretty much the best scenario. We have to adapt to the fact that it will get…

As long as major countries like Germany are keeping their ban on nuclear power, climate change cannot be that urgent.

> As long as major countries like Germany are keeping their ban on nuclear power

Frankly, it doesn't matter what Germany or other European nations do - their carbon footprint has dramatically decreased.

The issue is everyone else [0]. China (12 GT), the US (5 GT), and India (3 GT) alone represent over half of all global carbon emissions. The EU and UK's combined carbon emissions are half of Asia (excluding China and India) emissions.

Countries like India and Vietnam are expected to see GDP growth in the 6-8% range for the next decade, and both are doubling down on coal [1][2] and other carbon heavy fuels, so emissions are only going to grow further. Any marginal decrease in carbon emissions at this point is too little too late given that much of Asia and South America is expected to see carbon emission grow in the 3-8% range.

[0] - https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/annual-co2-emissions-per-...

[1] - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-12-05/india-mul...

[2] - https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/vietnam-looks-more-c...

Re: Europe's fires are just the start

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Post by cbg0 »

throwaway894345 wrote: post #16
cbmuser wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Who is opposing nuclear power? Or are you trying to imply that advocating for renewables is “opposing nuclear power”?

Plenty of people oppose it, about 36% of Germany for one example https://www.dw.com/en/german-poll-majority-for-return-to-nuc...
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