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Why is everyone trying to build a solid-state battery?

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Re: Why is everyone trying to build a solid-state battery?

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Tangential to the main article point but…

The energy density scatter plot is physically correct but misleading and everyone makes this mistake.

From an engineering point of view you have to use work delivered at the end of the drive train not fuel raw energy content.

When you do that lithium ion batteries compare more favorably to liquid fuels. That’s because the conversion path is more than 90% efficient. For ICE engines you’re starting with only 20-40% Carnot efficiency (depending on how good and in good shape the engine is) and then losing in the transmission and then losing more because ICE cars have more other gears and moving parts. Power to wheel is pretty terrible. Most of the energy from gasoline heats the air around the car.

This is also why you get outrageous sounding but accurate things like: an EV charged on 100% coal fired electricity emits less carbon than a typical gasoline car. The fact that coal is literal pure carbon fuel is made up for by the high thermal efficiency of a giant supercritical steam turbine vs a small piston engine. Coal burns real hot too (steeper thermal gradient). So more of the energy from coal ends up doing actual work vs heating the air. (Well directly heating the air I mean.)

Re: Why is everyone trying to build a solid-state battery?

#5
Solid state batteries come in several flavours. Most of them don't stop dendrites.

The flavour you want is polymer, single ion conducting solid state with an ion transport activation energy below 10kJ/mol at room temperature and no phase transitions from -40C to 80C.

That is the holy grail of SS batteries.

Re: Why is everyone trying to build a solid-state battery?

#7

have I misread or 3/4 of the article explained what a battery is and only final tiny part got to "short-circuiting dendrites don't happen without electrolite"?

dendrites are an inherent problem with liquid elctrolytes and I would have emphasized that as well

Re: Why is everyone trying to build a solid-state battery?

#10
post #6

We need way more research on batteries. People cant ingine what is possible if we make battery 10x energy dense.

I don't think 10x density is possible without getting into nuclear, at least not with the chemistries we know of today, everything at a certain point becomes an explosive.

Speaking of nuclear, getting tons of the material that powers mars rovers and putting them in every home would generate enough power for decades... At the cost of being able to build a nuclear bomb in a garage.

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