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Re: Superlogical

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Post by jerieljan » Thu, Jul 30, 2026, 3:53 AM UTC

loveparade wrote: post #344

graiz wrote: post #342

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It's built for ai agents, tmux works but isn't designed for an ai workflow. Herdr is also very well thought out, not just the design/approach but also the interaction and mouse support, responsive support, etc. I had been using tmux, switched and haven't looked back.

I'm sorry but I am still confused. What specifically does herdr give me over tmux? "It is designed for agents" is just marketing speech, it means nothing. Ok, it has mouse support, fine, I don't care about that one but I can see how it's useful to some people. That has nothing to do with agents though. zellij also has a better user experience than tmux, so you could just use that or any of the other dozen multiplexer…

You can check their own AI-generated comparison here: https://herdr.dev/compare/

Realistically, what I use about its agent stuff is:

- reliable notification pings either via what your terminal app uses (e.g., ghostty's) or system or just within herdr only

- if absolutely necessary, be able to tell agent sessions to observe and run commands on a herdr pane (security beware, for obvious reasons)

- herdr --remote which is basically a quick SSH -> attach to herdr on a remote

- prefix+g (equivalent to prefix+w in tmux) presents itself nicer, has binds for agent state filtering and its /search imho is mildly nicer than tmux's

Arguably, you can have the same points in others if you know how to configure tmux or zellij already, so if you're comfortable with that then you really don't have to use herdr.

Re: Superlogical

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Post by aorth » Thu, Jul 30, 2026, 3:54 AM UTC

jarx64 wrote: post #350

I'm stealing that gradient-scrollbar

I came to say something similar. On mobile it looks really nice and matches the highlights elsewhere. Cool subtle visual effect.

Re: Superlogical

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Post by aorth » Thu, Jul 30, 2026, 3:57 AM UTC

dannygreer wrote: post #218

Anybody else using Superset as your multiplexer rn? I'm finding it quite useful but wondering if there are other existing products that I should consider -- Mac Silicon: https://superset.sh/ Curious to see what Superlogical cooks up.

I've never heard of that Superset. I've used the Apache business analytics one though: https://github.com/apache/superset. Unfortunate name collision...

Re: Superlogical

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Post by BobbyTables2 » Thu, Jul 30, 2026, 3:59 AM UTC

saltcured wrote: post #329

tptacek wrote: post #301

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Can you explain how the COM/ActiveX security history applies here?

I had a similar wincing reaction to the expressed idea of wanting to converge output, control, and interaction under a terminal muxer in today's wacky world. But that's because today's world is forcing us towards overwhelming risk management and compliance systems like NIST 800-53 and friends. If anything, these mechanisms are being drawn, quartered, and spread to the opposite corners of the Earth. Control via config…

Or such a fusion will be in the next release of systemd…

Re: Superlogical

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Post by BobbyTables2 » Thu, Jul 30, 2026, 4:01 AM UTC

Initial impression is that is is a weird stew of ghostty mixed with all the things HashiCorp tried to do…

Re: Superlogical

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Post by olalonde » Thu, Jul 30, 2026, 4:02 AM UTC

dakolli wrote: post #378

Its hilarious how everyone in the comments is like "Look I built the same thing" Ya'll really need to checkout that 15 year old talk from Peter Thiel about not building the same thing as everyone else. LLMs have destroyed problem solving, creative thinking in general. Why don't you people actually solve problems that matter and are original rather than making the equivalent of nvim configurations of the llm era?

> LLMs have destroyed problem solving, creative thinking in general.

People probably had just as many uncreative ideas before, but lacked the ability to execute on them. Remember the "idea guys" constantly looking for tech cofounders to build their "brilliant" visions? Now, LLMs have given them the ability to execute.

Re: Superlogical

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Post by vladsiu » Thu, Jul 30, 2026, 4:21 AM UTC

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Re: Superlogical

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Post by valcron1000 » Thu, Jul 30, 2026, 4:21 AM UTC

bryanlarsen wrote: post #219

Sounds like something that could be done with by pulling in a few dozen Emacs extensions and writing a few thousand lines of elisp. (And one of those extensions would be the libghostty base ghostel.) It's sort of what I'm doing already -- using emacs-server to provide portable persistent sessions on top of a bunch of terminals, agents and editor buffers. It's a 1% effort on my part and super janky and super me-specif…

Care to share your setup? I'm currently working on pretty much the same thing and it's looking good so far, but having a single user makes it hard to get enough feedback.

Re: Superlogical

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Post by gavmor » Thu, Jul 30, 2026, 4:35 AM UTC

oddrationale wrote: post #353

theturtletalks wrote: post #291

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I’m tracking them all here[0] The first app in this space was VibeTunnel[1]. It basically lets you start terminals on your Mac and the web app allows you to control these terminals on your iPhone using Tailscale. In the end, it’s just terminals on the web with organization around it. I forked VibeTunnel and turned it into a Next app and added workspaces with memory and turned it into a software factory which is makin…

I'll add a few more to your list that I've been trying (not associated with either): - Paseo ( https://github.com/getpaseo/paseo ) - t3code ( https://github.com/pingdotgg/t3code )

My daily driver is Agent of Empires (https://github.com/agent-of-empires/agent-of-empires)

Re: Superlogical

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Post by wild_egg » Thu, Jul 30, 2026, 4:38 AM UTC

CGamesPlay wrote: post #377

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #367

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> It's built for ai agents, tmux works but isn't designed for an ai workflow So an opportunity to learn the Bitter Lesson [1]. If tmux is good enough for people today, it should be good enough for agets tomorrow. That gap might comprise a beachhead. But you'd better scramble off the shores onto something more defensible fast. [1] http://www.incompleteideas.net/IncIdeas/BitterLesson.html

You say this like there's no value in a transitional technology. Yes, tmux should be good enough for agents tomorrow. But here we are, today. Also, herdr is just an open source project with no VC capital behind it. So I don't think it needs to scramble to something more defensible. It can live a happy life pleasing users and then fade into obsolescence.

> Yes, tmux should be good enough for agents tomorrow. But here we are, today.

tmux is good enough for agents today. they're great at driving it, they're great at customizing it, what's the problem people have with it? i am confused.