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Re: AI's top startups are barely publishing their research

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Hence why most companies don't publish research and most software is proprietary. Publishing and open source only make sense in certain situations.

Open source doesn't mean, it's available to the general public.

What's your point?

Re: AI's top startups are barely publishing their research

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Happily, current AI is interacted with in a reactive loop. I open the Claude app, CLI, whatever, say my prompt, get an output. I personally wanted an AI that was able to reach out to me about my life before I had to reach out to it. An example, a friend just emailed me asking to meet for at 1pm but I have class at 1:30, so a proactive AI would see that conflict and send me a notification about it, asking if the propo…

> An example, a friend just emailed me asking to meet for at 1pm but I have class at 1:30, so a proactive AI would see that conflict and send me a notification about it, asking if the proposed email it drafted works, then I press send. I don't mean to downplay your work, but I think you should come up with a better example use case. Automating away interactions with friends is pretty much the last thing I want AI to…

Good point, another example would be for when I was training my own small LM a while back, the target was about 170M parameters and was trained on 2B tokens worth of movie subtitles.

The run stalled mid-step around 80M parameters, Orb notified me that it stalled, asked if I wanted to resume at the last checkpoint and kill the stalled version. I simply press “yes” and continue doing whatever I was doing.

For non-technical users and non-antisocial people, remembering things you forgot so you don’t let people down. You told your sister you’d send her some pictures two hours ago but it can see you’re scrolling on reddit and the photos are on your desktop, so it assumes you forgot and reminds you.

The idea was that the biggest issue with the usefulness of an agent is that it has too little context about who I am, it needs more data. So I run all of my data through a smart router, then the local database, then the LLM reviews it and uses reasoning on what’s been collected.

Re: AI's top startups are barely publishing their research

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I'm very interested in this kind of thing as a kind of ADHD brain augment, like it's monitoring my slack, github, email, calendar, active terminals, etc, and helps me prioritize what I should work on as well as weighing whether this or that ping is worth interrupting me for. I assumed that's what openclaw basically was, but is Orb different from that? And is it fundamentally a different model from the request/respons…

Exactly what my thoughts were when I first heard about Openclaw, that’s the exact idea of Orb that you pointed out. Letting you make less decisions, right now AI gives you answers but still requires decisions based on the outputs it gives you. This would deepen the actual ability of agents in those channels you listed. On a fundamental level the backend was designed to do as little LLM calls as possible, for instance…

Okay interesting, so maybe openclaw does a lot less than I thought it did; really I have no excuse not to be just trying it myself regardless, given that I'm sitting on a 9070 XT.

It doesn't look like you're building directly on openclaw, so is that coming from a place of different goals or philosophy, or what?

Re: AI's top startups are barely publishing their research

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Which is a very ironic and selfish situation when your business model dependent mostly on model training based on available published data, academic and non-academic.

That's why we should enforce copyleft

That has nothing to do with anything. If you publish a copyleft paper, that doesn't compel someone who makes a product based on your paper to publish more papers.

Re: AI's top startups are barely publishing their research

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Happily, current AI is interacted with in a reactive loop. I open the Claude app, CLI, whatever, say my prompt, get an output. I personally wanted an AI that was able to reach out to me about my life before I had to reach out to it. An example, a friend just emailed me asking to meet for at 1pm but I have class at 1:30, so a proactive AI would see that conflict and send me a notification about it, asking if the propo…

> An example, a friend just emailed me asking to meet for at 1pm but I have class at 1:30, so a proactive AI would see that conflict and send me a notification about it, asking if the proposed email it drafted works, then I press send. I don't mean to downplay your work, but I think you should come up with a better example use case. Automating away interactions with friends is pretty much the last thing I want AI to…

It's very common to experiment with ideas using your own data or personal niche, then branch out by finding analogies in real world business applications or (less commonly) a consumer tool with a cleaner pitch. The important thing is talking to other people to find those usecases or refine the public angle.

Re: AI's top startups are barely publishing their research

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What the blogificafion of AI research has done is allowed all kinds of claims and terminology related to AI to be introduced and taken up in a manner replicating social media dynamics. And that is simply not healthy. We’re fast reaching a place where any claim can be backed up with a set of numbers from a number of experiments run in some gamified environment or the other, with little concern for if it all adds up to…

How is that different from traditional research publication? It's faster?

That plus leaning on legacy reputation of journals or schools, instead of open websites and virality.

Re: AI's top startups are barely publishing their research

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$160 billion valuation and market capture among some top (non-AI, traditional enterprise) companies, I think.

Yeah, but that capture is usually just hosted spark usage. The AI usage has mostly been getting it to explain error messages

they also have a pretty handy button right next to the error to ftfy

Re: AI's top startups are barely publishing their research

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Exactly what my thoughts were when I first heard about Openclaw, that’s the exact idea of Orb that you pointed out. Letting you make less decisions, right now AI gives you answers but still requires decisions based on the outputs it gives you. This would deepen the actual ability of agents in those channels you listed. On a fundamental level the backend was designed to do as little LLM calls as possible, for instance…

Okay interesting, so maybe openclaw does a lot less than I thought it did; really I have no excuse not to be just trying it myself regardless, given that I'm sitting on a 9070 XT. It doesn't look like you're building directly on openclaw, so is that coming from a place of different goals or philosophy, or what?

Openclaw is great from when I’d used it for a couple months, the key difference is that for Openclaw you’ll have to actually schedule the cron jobs or automated tasks yourself, so it’s a decision on your part to make the AI do a thing whereas Orb is a decision on the part of the AI (after your approval) to do the thing. So it’s a kind of shift of agency. Openclaw could definitely do many similar things, it just would do them only after you specifically instructed it to.

It’s built as it’s own backend and philosophy wise, I want my personal AI to connect to everything in my life and have complete context over all data that I own, be compiled into a neat stack of data accumulating, then when it thinks it’s appropriate to do/say something, it’ll do it without my involvement.

Nice card btw, I got my RTX 5070 a couple months ago and it runs like a dream.

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