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The coolest use for the Vision Pro

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Re: The coolest use for the Vision Pro

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Post by jondiggsit »

ensemblehq wrote: post #197
jondiggsit wrote: post #68

My team uses this technology on a daily basis at my company. I run a design / build firm in the Hamptons, USA. We start all of our design projects with a 3d-first approach. Schematic design starts in 3D using Rhino3D or Revit. We use visualization plugins, like Enscape, to render the models and stream to a Quest 3 headset. So when clients come in, and feels adventurous, we'll setup the headset, set the display height…

Wow I’m incredibly impressed that you’ve decided to embrace VR technology. When renovating our house, it was incredibly hard (and still is) to visualize how everything. So far we just got lucky but the basement is going to be a challenge as we’re making structural adjustments. How did you get your team to get onboard with the process? How is the ROI?

My team design team are graduate architects, on the younger-ish side - 29 and 40. One worked for Santiago Calatrava - who, if you know, obviously models all his work. So it was second nature to them, I just pushed them to lean into it. Rhino is not without its drawbacks. It is time consuming but it's worth it because, as a sales tool, it wins every time. I'll have first time meetings with perspective clients where we'll wireframe a design on their survey (if we know some particulars of the program). Blows people away.

The ROI - the salaries were a negative on the books for two years, but now we're choosing our projects, ones that any AD100 firm would kill for.

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Post by mikeaskew4 »

One could see this with a Google Cardboard and a phone, not just a headset.

But bringing the tools to the masses to create something like this, well that’s another story (one that I’ve been pursuing for many years myself).

Thanks, Christian!

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pfranz wrote: post #110
nxc18 wrote: post #28

It seems like everything here can also be done with any iPhone using ARKit. Obviously the headset is better, but not $3500 better than just looking through your phone. Just thought I’d raise this since it weirdly isn’t mentioned in the article. I used a similar technique the last time I moved - scan the apartment using the iPhone, then I had a 3D model for measuring and planning out the space before/during the move.…

Ive used various AR apps to see how products fit in physical spaces--like Ikea used to offer. I've also worked on VR projects for car interiors. With VR you really do get a sense of scale and space that you're still guessing at with AR on a phone. I really liked when people removed the VR headset they were surprised to be back in a small room. Like you mentioned, Ive wanted to scan some spaces to remember them in the…

I used Polycam. It was very easy to use, but imperfect. But it got the job done very quickly.

It can generate a mesh, or convert the scan into a floor plan or idealized 3d model.

I was able to capture the mesh and save to my iPhone. I think I did a month subscription and that was more than enough time.

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Post by nxc18 »

radicality wrote: post #107
nxc18 wrote: post #28

It seems like everything here can also be done with any iPhone using ARKit. Obviously the headset is better, but not $3500 better than just looking through your phone. Just thought I’d raise this since it weirdly isn’t mentioned in the article. I used a similar technique the last time I moved - scan the apartment using the iPhone, then I had a 3D model for measuring and planning out the space before/during the move.…

How did you actually end up doing it, like the full pipeline ? For example what app did you use to scan your apartment and orocesss it into a 3d model (which kind?) and then how do you actually do the planning (like which tools/software to plan your new space?) And I ask for details because I have attempted something similar but wasn’t getting the best results. I was using ‘3d scanner app’ (which was good but was sol…

I used Polycam. I’m not sure if it’s 100% accurate down to the inch - probably not but it was quite close. They have a floor plan editor now but I haven’t tried it.

As for planning the new space, I sketched it out - I might have used their tools, might have also just sketched it out on paper.

Once I had my plan, I marked it out using masking tape just to sanity check and everything fit as expected.

Re: The coolest use for the Vision Pro

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Post by singingtoday »

xandrius wrote: post #59
stonedivot wrote: post #18

This is an absolutely standard feature of any VR headset that has ever been released in the history of VR headsets. Make a 3D world, walk through it. What am I missing?

Yep, we did hackathons with old Oculus Rift DK1 around this concept over 15 years ago or so.

That's awesome! How was shipping it? How was the product market fit?

Re: The coolest use for the Vision Pro

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Post by JSR_FDED »

Rohansi wrote: post #195
JSR_FDED wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh. In this case moving a single wall, or repositioning a single window, kitchen island, etc - would cost more than $3500.

The author isn't doing AR/mixed reality so they aren't showing that use case. You can do all of it on a cheaper headset, too.

VR is actually better for architectural visualization

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Post by NuclearPM »

jondiggsit wrote: post #186
SirHackalot wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This comment almost made me quit my job and pursue my original passion in architecture. So the job was, all along, as fun as I imagined it… And the full-stack knowledge to make it happen is still rare? I am currently designing my house in Blender and was planning to import it into Unreal Engine to make it navigable. HN has a way of serving me the content I’m looking for at the right time…

I love hearing statements like this. I want to learn how to import into Unreal Engine... also throw a rocket launcher in there with some destruction physics. I will caution tho, converting the Rhino models back into CAD for construction drawings, etc. is time consuming. One of my architects is skilled in Revit, but we haven't explored the real time rendering / 3d visualization abilities enough with it.

Start with a parametric program like solid works

Re: The coolest use for the Vision Pro

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Post by NuclearPM »

papercruncher wrote: post #168
jondiggsit wrote: post #68

My team uses this technology on a daily basis at my company. I run a design / build firm in the Hamptons, USA. We start all of our design projects with a 3d-first approach. Schematic design starts in 3D using Rhino3D or Revit. We use visualization plugins, like Enscape, to render the models and stream to a Quest 3 headset. So when clients come in, and feels adventurous, we'll setup the headset, set the display height…

I did this circa 2021 (with SketchUp, Enscape, Quest 2) during our house remodel. It was very successful in reducing the number of walls my wife wanted to move around after they had been finished

Reducing?

Re: The coolest use for the Vision Pro

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Post by Rohansi »

JSR_FDED wrote: post #207
Rohansi wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The author isn't doing AR/mixed reality so they aren't showing that use case. You can do all of it on a cheaper headset, too.

VR is actually better for architectural visualization

Great, then you can use even cheaper headsets that don't do AR instead.
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