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Re: Show HN: Designing Web Applications

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't found a good printer to work with. Though I would also like to get some copies printed.

On-demand printing may be a good option for you: http://www.lulu.com/

That would be very expensive. Looks like at least $30 per copy.

Re: Show HN: Designing Web Applications

#72
Please remove the Facebook, Mailchimp etc logos. It really leaves a bad taste - it's a practice to show those on a landing when either the companies whose logo are featured, are using this product/service or have said something positive about it.

But after reading the line below it, it's just a mis-direction, felt almost cheated. I'd highly recommend removing it.

Re: Show HN: Designing Web Applications

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Very bottom "So, are you ready to buy the book now?"

But no link/button/call to action - I'd need to scroll back up and parse out which action to take from the visual stuff above. Wondering if you'd see more conversions by putting a purchase link there too (or perhaps you've already tried it)

Re: Show HN: Designing Web Applications

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Ummm... might be my mistake, but I can't spot any indication of how long your book is.

I did quickly look through the sample and the book seems to be very useful, but I'd like some indication of how much of it there is. ;)

Re: Show HN: Designing Web Applications

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post #74

Ummm... might be my mistake, but I can't spot any indication of how long your book is. I did quickly look through the sample and the book seems to be very useful, but I'd like some indication of how much of it there is. ;)

The book itself is 154 pages.

Re: Show HN: Designing Web Applications

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post #41

I edited your site to solve the issues and uploaded to imgur. (The matrix is from CrazyEgg, but take the idea). http://imgur.com/slYOb Here is my walkthrough of the site: 1. Great, exactly what I am looking for: book on designing web applications. 2. Oooh look, Facebook, Freshbooks, and MailChimp use this, wait, no they do not. This is graphically implied by their logos and using an established user experience locati…

I had the same reaction to the Facebook, Freshbooks, and MailChimp logo placement. Struck me as a little shady. The book sample is excellent though, and I'm considering the $199 package, primarily for the web app .psd.

Reading your comment, I asked myself "There was a sample?"

Another design issue of note, I had skimmed past that portion during the scroll down because it was not highlighted. There should be some sort of color change.

Re: Show HN: Designing Web Applications

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Please remove the Facebook, Mailchimp etc logos. It really leaves a bad taste - it's a practice to show those on a landing when either the companies whose logo are featured, are using this product/service or have said something positive about it. But after reading the line below it, it's just a mis-direction, felt almost cheated. I'd highly recommend removing it.

I agree. Both the orientation and placement of the logos highly suggest that they have a strong connection to the product being sold. Intentional or not, I do not think it qualifies as something dishonest but it is quite sneaky :)

Edit Question: On second thought, Is it really a bad thing? The logos do have their purpose (examples of webapps) and there was never mention of any connections with the companies displayed. The false conclusion that an average skimming reader arrives upon seeing the logos comes from "unwritten norms" of the web, and thereafter, the feeling of being misled.

Re: Show HN: Designing Web Applications

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To be fair, $200 is really not a lot of money. For all the contents, videos, interviews, samples, one can imagine how much effort being allocated for this. Being famous doesn't entitle someone to be able to charge expensively. Likewise, nothing is stopping anyone out there ("nobody" or not) to charge the price he or she wanted to. This is what we call internet, it's completely free market. No government or regulatory body is going to say "Hey Nathan! You are nobody, stop charging people a bloody $200 notes for a piece advice." Let's put some angles of perspective in, if he successfully sells 1000 copies at $200. He will make $200k revenue. Deduct that with the cost of his labor, his lost opportunity to work on his apps, marketing fee and the support time cost. He will probably pocket 30-40k pure profit. What if he has to follow what people say to price it lower at $20. Selling 1000 copies will barely cover his cost. And where are you going to find 1000 people who will believe this $20 crap going to give you top notch advice on delivering amazing web apps UX and design. Charge premium is a good start. Keep improving the content is a sure way to gain you the loyalty of customers.

Back to the odd marketing strategy. Why show it here? Why HN, really? Most will simply want something quick and simple to show the idea behind their hacks to the community. We are frequently being shown unfurnished prototype (indeed twitter bootstrap half the time). Anyone really serious about building well designed and engineered UX web applications will probably have a well funded startup with specialist UX designer onboard. Or someone must have been a long time practitioner of UX to be bothered about putting much focus on UX. It's not as simple as reading a book, listen to an interview, you become great in UX. It's only through years of experience, going through iteration after iteration of UX design tweaks, you will have a basic idea where to lead the good UX direction. A long the way, there are still huge chances to make UX mistakes here and there. Too simplified, or too complicated. Too plain, lack of creative input. Too much boring UX treating every users as dummy as they can. I am sure it will be hard for the community here to start bothering UX before getting their hacks done. And worst, the next hacks are waiting ....

Re: Show HN: Designing Web Applications

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post #29

The "complete package" gave me sticker shock, so much that I almost closed the page then and there. It was only out of curiosity as to why the $200 price tag was worthwhile that I even kept reading to find more purchase options. It put a bad taste in my mouth, honestly, and I'm left feeling pretty confused by why you won't let me cherry pick my own interview+book package. I'm just having trouble seeing the dollar val…

Thanks for the feedback. I am always trying to improve my content, sites, and marketing. My target market is people who are serious about web applications. In an industry where it isn't hard to charge $100-250 an hour for design or development work, $200 for everything included doesn't seem like a lot. But I understand that for some people (students) that can be a ton of money, so I am also selling the book by itself…

On the issue of price, is there avenue where someone can purchase the book and "upgrade" to the higher packages later?
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