A bit of topic. But how likely is it that the US will restrict Chinese open weight models and also force Euro countries to do the same? I think it will be effective within 6 months. The US is having a hard time staying competitive.
Kimi K3-256k
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Re: Kimi K3-256k
#32A bit of topic. But how likely is it that the US will restrict Chinese open weight models and also force Euro countries to do the same? I think it will be effective within 6 months. The US is having a hard time staying competitive.
I don’t know, but I do think that the days of the US “forcing” Euro countries to do anything, is over.
Re: Kimi K3-256k
#33Since Claude is the first time for me really, really out (TIL against my wished about https://status.claude.com/ ), I am now interested enough to see what else works. But ... when I click pricing, I see "Join a waitlist". Wtf? Are they really that good, so were totally surprised and overwhelmed by the requests, is this a marketing stunt, or do they just don't have the hardware being in china?
> Are they really that good, They did exceed the expecations of pretty much everyone! I've also blogged about using the model, it's a bit on the slow side but pretty good! > so were totally surprised and overwhelmed by the requests ... or do they just don't have the hardware being in china? Yes, this is mostly the case: https://x.com/Kimi_Moonshot/status/2078855608565207130 As a user, I much prefer that to service di…
"I'd be pretty pissed off about not being able to give them money and become a user."
I am now rather pretty pissed towards antrophic for stopping my flow and forcing me to search for alternatives.
Re: Kimi K3-256k
#34Why are Anthropic and OpenAI even allowing their coding harness apps to be plugged into different model providers…? I’m surprised they haven’t figured out a way to clamp down on that by now.
Re: Kimi K3-256k
#35A bit of topic. But how likely is it that the US will restrict Chinese open weight models and also force Euro countries to do the same? I think it will be effective within 6 months. The US is having a hard time staying competitive.
Trump burned a lot of bridges in the EU, that one will be a hard sell
Re: Kimi K3-256k
#36What is the purpose of this? Just a hard cutoff below the actual context window? You could set that in your harness anyway.
> k3 (1M) consumes about twice as much quota as k3-256k Cheaper?
k3-256 consumes half the quota, so... yes? (assuming the user isn't making use of the larger context window)
Re: Kimi K3-256k
#37Why are Anthropic and OpenAI even allowing their coding harness apps to be plugged into different model providers…? I’m surprised they haven’t figured out a way to clamp down on that by now.
I'd guess because it costs them nothing and it gives you a smoother transition back towards paying for their products.
Re: Kimi K3-256k
#38Why are Anthropic and OpenAI even allowing their coding harness apps to be plugged into different model providers…? I’m surprised they haven’t figured out a way to clamp down on that by now.
Well when a huge part of potential revenue is all in on Bedrock... you need the harness to be able to talk to Bedrock. And Vertex. And all the other places these models are hosted. And allow for proxy because many businesses do not all direct internet access... all valid business reasons.
Re: Kimi K3-256k
#39This seems functionally similar to OpenAI having a step in pricing once you exceed a certain context length (also at 272k aka 2^18 aka 256k).
Having a lot of active context increases the per-token cost (flops issued and bytes read per token out) so it makes sense to pass that cost on to users. I'm actually surprised it's implemented as a hard cutoff instead of a smooth gradient.
Re: Kimi K3-256k
#40This was posted 38 minutes ago, and as of 20 minutes ago, several Anthropic services are now designated as having a "major outage". Doubt these are related, but it made me laugh a little.
Anthropic services have outages on all days ending in y.
So users in Germany are not affected?