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Re: Kimi K3-256k

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Post by giancarlostoro »

jdoe1337halo wrote: post #13
cyanydeez wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm always curious what you guys are working on; every git repo I've run a local model on and stick below <100k to increase speed seems effective enough to scope patches and changes.

They are just talking to the model in CC, while staying in a single thread. Doubt they have any actual coding knowledge to compartmentalize different problems in the codebase.

Depends on the programming language I'm using for a given project, and the domain I'm working with. I've been coding as a hobbyist for nearly two decades now (since my teens), professionally for 9 years, and was a TA before that for roughly 3 years at one of the best colleges for this field in the state (at least back then it was) where I taught other students about programming, in some cases I was their primary learning resource.

But yeah, I have no idea about anything about software because you made an assumption off very little to go by.

Re: Kimi K3-256k

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Post by daemonologist »

sergiotapia wrote: post #19

I can't seem to find pricing for this model. Since the context size is just a quarter of the full size K3, is the price also much cheaper? I usually keep my context in chats below 256k anyways so this would be tremendous honestly.

It seems to only be available in Kimi Code, via subscription, no there's no API pricing. The linked page says it consumes about half as much quota as the 1M version though.

Re: Kimi K3-256k

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Post by giancarlostoro »

cyanydeez wrote: post #6
giancarlostoro wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me the sweet spot is somewhere under 500k depending on how extensive I want to get. You can build up a sizable effort project in half a million tokens with Claude, with Claude having all the context from ground 0 to wherever you're off at.

I'm always curious what you guys are working on; every git repo I've run a local model on and stick below <100k to increase speed seems effective enough to scope patches and changes.

I had Claude build me a Python-inspired .NET language that treats .NET as a first class citizen, and breaks backwards compatibility where some Python nuances don't really apply to .NET for. I was able to get it to build a sample ASP .NET Web application that ran on Culebral code.

Haven't gone back to it, have been using Claude Code on a private project I'm still architecting.

https://github.com/Giancarlos/Culebral

Re: Kimi K3-256k

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Post by sheeshkebab »

cyanydeez wrote: post #6
giancarlostoro wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me the sweet spot is somewhere under 500k depending on how extensive I want to get. You can build up a sizable effort project in half a million tokens with Claude, with Claude having all the context from ground 0 to wherever you're off at.

I'm always curious what you guys are working on; every git repo I've run a local model on and stick below <100k to increase speed seems effective enough to scope patches and changes.

Try doing a refactoring of some sort or larger new feature using just an agent on a moderately sized codebase, 256k will be compacting every few minutes, and result will be unusable.

Re: Kimi K3-256k

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Post by bkaae »

KronisLV wrote: post #14
cyanydeez wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm always curious what you guys are working on; every git repo I've run a local model on and stick below <100k to increase speed seems effective enough to scope patches and changes.

My current Claude Code session has been going on for like 35 hours and has used up around 400 million tokens, thankfully almost all of those being cached (95-98%) - pretty typical for long form agentic work. First you spend like 2-3 hours working on a plan, once you have that you just tell the model to go and implement it, do adversarial sub-agent review loops before each commit and also make sure that all tooling an…

Thanks for sharing - is this a normal feature request you are implementing in this example or is this a project from scratch? Trying to get an idea of how your workflow compares to mine.

Re: Kimi K3-256k

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Post by paxys »

illithid0 wrote: post #12

This was posted 38 minutes ago, and as of 20 minutes ago, several Anthropic services are now designated as having a "major outage". Doubt these are related, but it made me laugh a little.

Anthropic services have outages on all days ending in y.

Re: Kimi K3-256k

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Post by dnlzro »

hendersoon wrote: post #26

What is the purpose of this? Just a hard cutoff below the actual context window? You could set that in your harness anyway.

Uses less quota (i.e., cheaper). For people who like to keep their contexts small, this is a no-brainer.
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