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Re: Darktable

#91

Post by jitl »

evolve2k wrote: post #88

I want a workflow where i can plug in my SD card, open Dadkroom, click a button or two and all photos are pulled onto my computer and then once definitely there the SD card is deleted. I struggled a little to get this import workflow setup nicely, any tips on settings and config to achieve nice import workflow? Once I’m dealing with duplicates I start to wigg out!

This seems like table stakes for photo library software. Apple Photos does this perfectly on Mac and iPhone. i want more powerful capabilities but I'm not willing to sacrifice UX ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: Darktable

#92

Post by jitl »

BeetleB wrote: post #61
erksa wrote: post #16

Darktable is fantastic, and their darktable-cli is really clutch as a photographer turned SWE. If coming from lightroom or the likes it does take some dedicated learning to adapt to the "Darktable" ways of doing things. Deceptively similar UI, yet very different approaches and naming. Darktable is however, bad at photograpy organization and collections. Something Lightroom shines at. Built many processes around it fo…

> Darktable is however, bad at photograpy organization and collections. It's like saying Microsoft Word is bad as an IDE. That's because it's not and IDE. And Darktable is very explicit that it is not for photography organization and collections.

well then it doesn't sound competitive with software like Lightroom (which its name seems to mirror)

Re: Darktable

#93

Post by dllu »

thatxliner wrote: post #80

I found Darktable absolutely amazing, although the learning curve is incredibly steep. Some ex-maintainers hated the direction of Darktable and thus made their own fork, namely https://github.com/aurelienpierreeng/ansel

Original founder of darktable, hanatos, went and made vkdt which fixes a bunch of my pet peeves with darktable:

https://github.com/hanatos/vkdt

https://jo.dreggn.org/vkdt/

* Vulkan instead of OpenCL has way better performance.

* Graph-based editing akin to Blender. This fixes the issue of it being annoying and weird to reorder modules in darktable

It is, of course, still early on in its development and way less mature and featureful than Darktable.

Re: Darktable

#94

Post by cbarnes99 »

evolve2k wrote: post #88

I want a workflow where i can plug in my SD card, open Dadkroom, click a button or two and all photos are pulled onto my computer and then once definitely there the SD card is deleted. I struggled a little to get this import workflow setup nicely, any tips on settings and config to achieve nice import workflow? Once I’m dealing with duplicates I start to wigg out!

Darktable should already basically do all of this with their existing copy and import function. The only thing it won't do is erase the SD card for you, and generally I would recommend you just format it on the camera.

Re: Darktable

#95

Post by wartywhoa23 »

The internal precision of controls (up to 0.0001 for many parameters) and the wonderful right-click fine tune popup UI alone were enough for me to forget Lightroom as a coarse axe of a RAW developer, and embrace Darktable.

Re: Darktable

#96

Post by mcdonje »

lionkor wrote: post #34

I've been using darktable for a while to edit my RAW photos. The amount of features, viable workflows, and in general the quality of the software is baffling for a free product. I would happily pay 200 bucks or something per year to use this, it makes all other RAW editing software obsolete. I can only recommend it, and there's nothing missing for me, even for editing thousands of RAW photos with presets, different s…

I'm on Debian, which is of course behind. I tried installing the flatpak, which is up to date, but the packager removed the AI parts. The only option I have (short of moving to Arch or similar) is AppImage, which doesn't integrate well with the DE.

I get being against AI, but Darktable is very responsible about it according to their release notes. Local only, opt-in only, no nagging. It's not like Adobe trying to push AI on you when you don't want it.

Re: Darktable

#97

Post by mcdonje »

roblh wrote: post #71
BeetleB wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Darktable is however, bad at photograpy organization and collections. It's like saying Microsoft Word is bad as an IDE. That's because it's not and IDE. And Darktable is very explicit that it is not for photography organization and collections.

You’re right, it’s just that editing and organizing are so tightly coupled that it’s difficult to use something that just ignores one. Like if your oven and sink were on different floors. I want to like darktable, but I need useful organizing built into the program otherwise I just get annoyed. Also the choices of where they put different editing panels are baffling to me. I can never find anything. Also, an aside. I…

You can have multiple instances with Darktable.

Re: Darktable

#98

Post by mcdonje »

BeetleB wrote: post #60
flipthefrog wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Want the best software for editing photos? No thanks, I'd rather use inferior open source solutions. Go Gimp

Upvoting you, because I actually use Gimp. While it has its headaches, for photo editing it's still the best after Photoshop. (Yes, still better than Krita). But this is all a digression, as Lightroom/Darktable are not Photoshop/Gimp replacements. Not even the same category.

Pretty sure they said "go gimp" ironically

Re: Darktable

#99

Post by thewebguyd »

roblh wrote: post #71
BeetleB wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Darktable is however, bad at photograpy organization and collections. It's like saying Microsoft Word is bad as an IDE. That's because it's not and IDE. And Darktable is very explicit that it is not for photography organization and collections.

You’re right, it’s just that editing and organizing are so tightly coupled that it’s difficult to use something that just ignores one. Like if your oven and sink were on different floors. I want to like darktable, but I need useful organizing built into the program otherwise I just get annoyed. Also the choices of where they put different editing panels are baffling to me. I can never find anything. Also, an aside. I…

> it’s just that editing and organizing are so tightly coupled that it’s difficult to use something that just ignores one.

This is especially true for professional workflows. I do wedding photography as a side hustle, I shoot anywhere between 15 to 20 weddings/year + a plethora of other sessions (family, portraits, etc.).

The asset management (and plugin ecosystem) are nearly just as important as the RAW processing tools itself. Lightroom (Classic) is even wired up to my gallery delivery service (Pixieset) + ImagenAI for first pass edits.

I've tried and used Darktable in the past. It's already completely capable of being my RAW processor, but it's everything else that's missing that makes my end to end professional workflow possible. The processing/editing tools was never the problem that keeps people locked into Lightroom. It's the decades of plugin development & the asset management features.

Re: Darktable

#100

Post by anfractuosity »

lionkor wrote: post #34

I've been using darktable for a while to edit my RAW photos. The amount of features, viable workflows, and in general the quality of the software is baffling for a free product. I would happily pay 200 bucks or something per year to use this, it makes all other RAW editing software obsolete. I can only recommend it, and there's nothing missing for me, even for editing thousands of RAW photos with presets, different s…

Doesn't arch already package it (https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/darktable/), I was using darktable on arch, but recently switched distros.
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