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Re: Superlogical

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Post by hobofan »

01284a7e wrote: post #20
hobofan wrote: post #15

I'm sorry to take it out on this specific announcement, as it just seems to be one of many "offenders", but why are the 15 investors listed on an announcement blog post of a semi-stealth startup? With most of them being VC or high-count angel investors, they can combined push whatever product is being built here into 200+ companies independent of whether it is good or not. What happened to the good old way of figurin…

"With most of them being VC or high-count angel investors, they can combined push whatever product is being built here into 200+ companies independent of whether it is good or not" Ah, I see you have figured it out the thing that has always been the case.

I don't doubt that, but that phenomenon seems to be reaching egregious levels.

Re: Superlogical

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Post by _verandaguy »

I really wish mitchellh wouldn't take funding from some of these people. Tobias Lutke in particular has chronically been on the wrong side of fundamental issues, and has most recently advocated for a pay-to-play version of democracy where wealth determines your ability to participate (and in particular your "stake" in the democracy).

Re: Superlogical

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Post by gorjusborg »

Sytten wrote: post #11

I am guessing Ghosty will become closer to Warp.

The post itself says that the effort is independent of ghostty. Their first work will utilize libghostty, and they'll contribute upstream.

In other words, this probably won't directly involve changes to ghostty.

Re: Superlogical

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Post by oooyay »

hobofan wrote: post #15

I'm sorry to take it out on this specific announcement, as it just seems to be one of many "offenders", but why are the 15 investors listed on an announcement blog post of a semi-stealth startup? With most of them being VC or high-count angel investors, they can combined push whatever product is being built here into 200+ companies independent of whether it is good or not. What happened to the good old way of figurin…

> why else would a ~billionaire that could easily fund it himself pull in that many investors that early?

Investors can be good for funding but they can also be good for education. Later, they're also very good for strategy.

> What happened to the good old way of figuring out product market fit first? Is that the only way a product can succeed nowadays

Generally it's very challenging. I have two products I'm building this way and you face a lot of up-hill climb where people with VC backing are getting the door opened for them. Of course, because of those same pressures to deliver and succeed, it's equally possible those same doors will eventually get closed on them.

I think Mitchell also lives in a bit of a bubble now. He went from friendly open source guy to very rich friendly open source guy. That's no knock on him, but I would consider viewing business from the perspective of someone who has been a CEO, CTO, and IC at the same company (his company) as his only job who became insanely wealthy as a result. I have a friend who has largely only worked in big tech, and successful startups, who tells me all the time level and salary don't matter to him. They don't matter to him because he found success early. Again, not a knock but sustained success will shape how you view the world and how you play the game.

Re: Superlogical

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Post by contagiousflow »

misiti3780 wrote: post #34
asymmetric wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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more info please!

https://fortune.com/2026/07/27/shopify-ceo-voting-rights-str...

Along with a myriad of different controversies. Just searching his name will bring up many articles about his chronically online Elon Musk wannabe takes.

Re: Superlogical

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Post by collabs »

misiti3780 wrote: post #34
asymmetric wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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more info please!

I found this just when I googled his name plus controversy

> Shopify CEO Tobias Lütke faced fierce online backlash in July 2026 after endorsing a social media proposal for a tax-tiered voting system that would strip voting rights from non-taxpayers and give multiple votes to high-income earners.

but if we go as far as to say

> If it’s touched by Tobias Lütke, I’m out.

does it mean control or sponsored, for example ladybird web browser...

Re: Superlogical

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Post by hobofan »

colesantiago wrote: post #19
hobofan wrote: post #15

I'm sorry to take it out on this specific announcement, as it just seems to be one of many "offenders", but why are the 15 investors listed on an announcement blog post of a semi-stealth startup? With most of them being VC or high-count angel investors, they can combined push whatever product is being built here into 200+ companies independent of whether it is good or not. What happened to the good old way of figurin…

Ghostty and libghostty was product market fit. Superlogical (allegedly) uses it for the multiplexer. Mitchell Hashimoto is just the icing on the cake and he has a track record of building defining dev tools used by millions of devs. So it makes sense why you see 15 angel investors. More money / investment in the dev tool space is great for everyone!

I'm not doubting that Mitchell Hashimoto is capable of building great products with great product market fit. Quite the opposite, as the few strands of idolization that exist within me rank him as one of the best to ever do it in the dev tooling space.

I'm also not doubting that there would be tons of investors throwing themselves at him for a new venture like this.

But why, apart from forced market access would it be in his interest to take that money, given that he can nicely fund it for a few years with ~1% of his net worth if not for forced market access?

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