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It doesn't matter whether "Matz is nice"

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Re: It doesn't matter whether "Matz is nice"

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So we should seeks to impose political purity tests on open-source software? Contribution of open code is independent of the contributor’s social, political, or private views. Attempting to filter contributors through a political lens creates an "intellectual monoculture" which is less robust and less efficient than one that evaluates output based on technical rigor alone. This polemic is to marginalize disruptive, c…

>This polemic is to marginalize disruptive, contrarian, or independent-minded competitors. If your disruptive, contrarian and "independent-minded" view is that immigration is destroying the white race and "Gypsies" should be shot in the street like dogs, and you openly support neo-nazi groups and their agenda, and you use terms like "woke mob" unironically, then you should be marginalized. Intellectual culture loses…

I, an open-source developer and contributor, am always looking forward to working together with a nazi to contribute to society!

Even Claude told the guy he's racist af and won't have anything to do with his blog post. What is expected from an actual decent human being to do when faced with the unfortunate event of working with him?

Re: It doesn't matter whether "Matz is nice"

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This post does not feel like it was made in good faith. The general premise ends up being: - Matz is nice -> DHH / Tobias are "not nice" -> Ruby is doomed (because of two not nice people, also perhaps because of AI) I think if they had focused perhaps on DHH (DHH's writings have been very polarizing), and also dropped the AI bit at the end, they might have had a stronger point, but Tobias ends up being judged guilty…

> DHH's writings have been very polarizing He compared an entire race to wild animals that were, according to him, rightfully brought to full extinction in the middle ages. What does he need to state in order for his ramblings to not be referred to by euphemisms? Call for concentration camps and gas chambers? Or will this also be an 'edgy' blog post? A 'spicy' tweet?

DHH was not the point of my comment (in fact, I said if the author had focused on him they'd have more of a point), so this unfortunately feels needlessly attackative.

Re: It doesn't matter whether "Matz is nice"

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So we should seeks to impose political purity tests on open-source software? Contribution of open code is independent of the contributor’s social, political, or private views. Attempting to filter contributors through a political lens creates an "intellectual monoculture" which is less robust and less efficient than one that evaluates output based on technical rigor alone. This polemic is to marginalize disruptive, c…

> political purity tests

eg “Are you a racist?”

Re: It doesn't matter whether "Matz is nice"

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So we should seeks to impose political purity tests on open-source software? Contribution of open code is independent of the contributor’s social, political, or private views. Attempting to filter contributors through a political lens creates an "intellectual monoculture" which is less robust and less efficient than one that evaluates output based on technical rigor alone. This polemic is to marginalize disruptive, c…

> Attempting to filter contributors through a political lens creates an "intellectual monoculture"

That's not a binary decision, monoculture or no filter.

Your agricultural metaphor is the best example, just because you don't want monoculture doesn't mean you want weed.

Re: It doesn't matter whether "Matz is nice"

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> DHH's writings have been very polarizing He compared an entire race to wild animals that were, according to him, rightfully brought to full extinction in the middle ages. What does he need to state in order for his ramblings to not be referred to by euphemisms? Call for concentration camps and gas chambers? Or will this also be an 'edgy' blog post? A 'spicy' tweet?

DHH was not the point of my comment (in fact, I said if the author had focused on him they'd have more of a point), so this unfortunately feels needlessly attackative.

The point is that DHH and Lütke have aAny other collab big influence on the Ruby ecosystem and gain huge profit from it.

Any other collaboration would be called out easily but code is somehow special.

It isn't.

If your code in the end helps that people get hurt, it's on you too

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