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Google DeepMind dismantles AlphaFold team

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Re: Google DeepMind dismantles AlphaFold team

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Painful to see teams doing great work getting pulled away on the premise that there is "even greater work" to be done in other areas.

There was something magical about the old days of Bell labs where there was just a naturally occurring and self-organizing list of all-star scientists who were in control over their area of research.

Too much money and power pushing and directing these individuals.

The clock is on and the magic is gone.

Re: Google DeepMind dismantles AlphaFold team

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Painful to see teams doing great work getting pulled away on the premise that there is "even greater work" to be done in other areas. There was something magical about the old days of Bell labs where there was just a naturally occurring and self-organizing list of all-star scientists who were in control over their area of research. Too much money and power pushing and directing these individuals. The clock is on and…

John Jumper moving to work on LLM coding capabilities does seem quite shortsighted - and little surprise perhaps that he then quit to work on AI for science again at Anthropic.

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Painful to see teams doing great work getting pulled away on the premise that there is "even greater work" to be done in other areas. There was something magical about the old days of Bell labs where there was just a naturally occurring and self-organizing list of all-star scientists who were in control over their area of research. Too much money and power pushing and directing these individuals. The clock is on and…

The "greater work" is scanning then burning millions of books btw

Re: Google DeepMind dismantles AlphaFold team

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Painful to see teams doing great work getting pulled away on the premise that there is "even greater work" to be done in other areas. There was something magical about the old days of Bell labs where there was just a naturally occurring and self-organizing list of all-star scientists who were in control over their area of research. Too much money and power pushing and directing these individuals. The clock is on and…

The "greater work" is scanning then burning millions of books btw

Google was scanning millions of books before the LLM craze, and they didn't burn them. They partnered with libraries and built their own non-destructive scanning hardware. I'm guessing this comment is really about Anthropic, but they are distinct companies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Books#Scanning_of_books

EDIT: I commented before reading the FT article. The comment by jackb4040 makes more sense to me now: some AlphaFold team members are moving to Anthropic, the company that has been in the news for shredding scanned books.

Re: Google DeepMind dismantles AlphaFold team

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Painful to see teams doing great work getting pulled away on the premise that there is "even greater work" to be done in other areas. There was something magical about the old days of Bell labs where there was just a naturally occurring and self-organizing list of all-star scientists who were in control over their area of research. Too much money and power pushing and directing these individuals. The clock is on and…

The "greater work" is scanning then burning millions of books btw

Don't confuse Google and Anthropic. Google already has a huge corpus of books via Google Books, none of which they burned after since they were borrowed books. The recent Anthropic settlement does not require them to burn books at all, they just can't keep them indefinitely whether physically or virtually. Nothing stops them from donating the books again.

Re: Google DeepMind dismantles AlphaFold team

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "greater work" is scanning then burning millions of books btw

Don't confuse Google and Anthropic. Google already has a huge corpus of books via Google Books, none of which they burned after since they were borrowed books. The recent Anthropic settlement does not require them to burn books at all, they just can't keep them indefinitely whether physically or virtually. Nothing stops them from donating the books again.

Anthropic destroyed the books, they can't donate them again.
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