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Re: Show HN: I was tired of opening 2 tabs for every HN link, so I made a userscript

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post #49

Feature 2 is really useful. When I land on a technical article I know chances are there will be a nice HN discussion, that may sometimes even refute the main point of the article. Feature 1 is IMO less useful. It just suggests that people are bad at window management. We didn't like overlapping windows and finding them, so we created tabs inside windows. Then we wanted to see two things at the same time, so we create…

Agree 100%

I got used to opening a new tab for things to read before RSS first invented. So I guess it became a 2nd nature. I also think it is better to read the article first before going to the comments session. So Feature 1 isn't that useful.

For feature 2 it is great. Although thinking about it I kind wish this could be done without browser extension but an actual site feature by HN.

Re: Show HN: I was tired of opening 2 tabs for every HN link, so I made a userscript

#113
post #55

I don't understand the problem space. Meaning I don't understand what this solves. My use case, even on phone: View HN Right click link to open in new tab OR: tap/hold a link then open I a new window. What problem is this solving?

I find it useful. It saves me time and you can read both things at the same time, right?

Re: Show HN: I was tired of opening 2 tabs for every HN link, so I made a userscript

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post #49

Feature 2 is really useful. When I land on a technical article I know chances are there will be a nice HN discussion, that may sometimes even refute the main point of the article. Feature 1 is IMO less useful. It just suggests that people are bad at window management. We didn't like overlapping windows and finding them, so we created tabs inside windows. Then we wanted to see two things at the same time, so we create…

> Sadly the community prefers to solve this at the application level rather than the desktop level

Not only does it "prefer", they actually enforce this. I haven't found any sensible way of completely disabling tabs in either Firefox or Chromium. FF has some janky extension that kinda sorta works, but it's a hideous workaround consisting of hiding the tab bar and automatically detaching most new tabs. With the rest of the tabs, you're SOL. Haven't found anything at all for chrome.

I very much prefer managing windows with my my... window manager. Which works the same way with all applications.

Re: Show HN: I was tired of opening 2 tabs for every HN link, so I made a userscript

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post #73
post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure if I agree about using windows instead of tabs. I have hundreds of tabs open, and dozens loaded, at any moment. I'm sure that it's possible to manage all the context with separate windows via a window manager, but it would have to be a REALLY good window manager to be able to provide equivalent features of tree style tabs and separate panes and whatever else that something like Sidebery provides, and it is a…

I think one of the point of the author is making might also be that a window manager could do just more, like managing windows as tabs as well. So that any application could have tabs, if the desktop manager would allow you to group windows as such. Same with showing a split view within such a tab as well. I think I agree with that. I could imaging that the browser containers of tabs would make a ton of sense if I co…

> So that any application could have tabs, if the desktop manager would allow you to group windows as such. Same with showing a split view within such a tab as well.

Not only that, but you could actually mix "tabs" from separate applications!

Re: Show HN: I was tired of opening 2 tabs for every HN link, so I made a userscript

#118
post #49

Feature 2 is really useful. When I land on a technical article I know chances are there will be a nice HN discussion, that may sometimes even refute the main point of the article. Feature 1 is IMO less useful. It just suggests that people are bad at window management. We didn't like overlapping windows and finding them, so we created tabs inside windows. Then we wanted to see two things at the same time, so we create…

> Sadly the community prefers to solve this at the application level rather than the desktop level Not only does it "prefer", they actually enforce this. I haven't found any sensible way of completely disabling tabs in either Firefox or Chromium. FF has some janky extension that kinda sorta works, but it's a hideous workaround consisting of hiding the tab bar and automatically detaching most new tabs. With the rest o…

Do you not think there are ways to organize tabs that should be applications specific?

Re: Show HN: I was tired of opening 2 tabs for every HN link, so I made a userscript

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Sadly the community prefers to solve this at the application level rather than the desktop level Not only does it "prefer", they actually enforce this. I haven't found any sensible way of completely disabling tabs in either Firefox or Chromium. FF has some janky extension that kinda sorta works, but it's a hideous workaround consisting of hiding the tab bar and automatically detaching most new tabs. With the rest o…

Do you not think there are ways to organize tabs that should be applications specific?

I think there are, see the other comment about tree-style tabs or similar for Firefox. I can absolutely see the value in that and I don't argue for that option to be removed or otherwise degraded.

But that's not the point. I'm not against applications offering those possibilities, and when I have to use Windows for work, I'm happy browsers have them.

My point is that they shouldn't force users into this way of working. Browsers already support multiple windows. Why can't I just disable the whole tab feature if I don't care for it? A while ago, when tabs were still new, you had to actively opt in. The default was a new window for everything. Now this option is completely gone for some reason.

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