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DEF CON bans Meta-style 'pervert glasses'

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Re: DEF CON bans Meta-style 'pervert glasses'

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Post by reddit_clone »

georgemcbay wrote: post #6
throwuxiytayq wrote: post #2

A few years ago a device with similar capabilities would have been the coolest gadget ever; Zuckerberg truly has the remarkable ability to turn to shit anything he touches.

Google Glass came out in 2013 and got a similar reception. Google's device also suffered from making the user look ridiculous, like a gargoyle out of Snow Crash, but at the end of the day most people had the same core issue with it as they have with the Meta glasses which is that people don't like the idea of being filmed in public, especially when the filming is somewhat surreptitious (since you don't have to hold b…

I would love a pair of ordinary looking glasses that work just as displays. I go for long walks (for health reasons) and it would be really good to watch youtube videos or shows that gets projected in front of my face, but still keep overall vision outside.

I definetely don't want a camera in there.

Not sure if such a beast exists. But due to Meta/Google screwing up with cameras, I may never get my display glasses.

Re: DEF CON bans Meta-style 'pervert glasses'

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Post by perching_aix »

foobarchu wrote: post #18
BoxwoodSeed wrote: post #17

It's so weird to me how people don't like these kind of glasses. They are basically a dash cam for your entire life. Seems like a pretty valuable thing to have. The only thing I object to is the facebook association.

It's weird to me that you find that weird. People in general don't like worrying that every little conversation is being recorded.

Wouldn't that change if "everyone" did it?

That "hilarious" and embarrassing misspeak or fall becomes a lot less so when it's a dime a dozen.

It's weird because it is (right now), not because it's some fundamentally weird thing ordained that way forever during the big bang or whatever.

Like, people don't like being watched when working, yet they'll sometimes outright forget they're screensharing. I know I do at least.

Re: DEF CON bans Meta-style 'pervert glasses'

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Post by mrdatawolf »

BoxwoodSeed wrote: post #19
georgemcbay wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google Glass came out in 2013 and got a similar reception. Google's device also suffered from making the user look ridiculous, like a gargoyle out of Snow Crash, but at the end of the day most people had the same core issue with it as they have with the Meta glasses which is that people don't like the idea of being filmed in public, especially when the filming is somewhat surreptitious (since you don't have to hold b…

> people don't like the idea of being filmed in public, I don't think that this can be the main issue, given how nobody really cares about security cameras in public spaces or all the cameras modern cars can come with, nevermind dash cams.

They like to be ignorant of being filmed. I don't mean that as an insult. "Ignorance is bliss"

Re: DEF CON bans Meta-style 'pervert glasses'

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Post by m463 »

throwuxiytayq wrote: post #2

A few years ago a device with similar capabilities would have been the coolest gadget ever; Zuckerberg truly has the remarkable ability to turn to shit anything he touches.

I think AR glasses are loathed.

But the camera takes this to extreme anti-social levels.

Re: DEF CON bans Meta-style 'pervert glasses'

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Post by lrae »

reddit_clone wrote: post #21
georgemcbay wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google Glass came out in 2013 and got a similar reception. Google's device also suffered from making the user look ridiculous, like a gargoyle out of Snow Crash, but at the end of the day most people had the same core issue with it as they have with the Meta glasses which is that people don't like the idea of being filmed in public, especially when the filming is somewhat surreptitious (since you don't have to hold b…

I would love a pair of ordinary looking glasses that work just as displays. I go for long walks (for health reasons) and it would be really good to watch youtube videos or shows that gets projected in front of my face, but still keep overall vision outside. I definetely don't want a camera in there. Not sure if such a beast exists. But due to Meta/Google screwing up with cameras, I may never get my display glasses.

XREAL, RayNeo and there is at least one more brand that exists. You could use those for that already - though they're probably not perfect yet for that specific use case.

But they will come and will get better. Apple is also supposedly still working on some and they'll likely try to get rid of the "camera issue". Or maybe they'll try to make it the new normal. But they already exist and there will be more of them in the future - with and without cameras.

Re: DEF CON bans Meta-style 'pervert glasses'

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Post by yallpendantools »

BoxwoodSeed wrote: post #19
georgemcbay wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google Glass came out in 2013 and got a similar reception. Google's device also suffered from making the user look ridiculous, like a gargoyle out of Snow Crash, but at the end of the day most people had the same core issue with it as they have with the Meta glasses which is that people don't like the idea of being filmed in public, especially when the filming is somewhat surreptitious (since you don't have to hold b…

> people don't like the idea of being filmed in public, I don't think that this can be the main issue, given how nobody really cares about security cameras in public spaces or all the cameras modern cars can come with, nevermind dash cams.

I think it has to do with how closely people think they are being recorded.

Someone filming/shooting in a park with a kit 18-55mm lens is fine. Swap that with a bulky 300mm or more and you are bound to get some questions asked.

A content creator casually shooting content in a mall is fine but if you start interviewing people, aiming your camera directly at them, it's at least common courtesy if not legal requirement to ask for permission.

Personally speaking, I wouldn't mind someone wearing these creeper specs in public but if they talk to me or if we eat at the same table, I would expect the courtesy of them putting the glasses away.

Re: DEF CON bans Meta-style 'pervert glasses'

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Post by johannesrexx »

BoxwoodSeed wrote: post #17

It's so weird to me how people don't like these kind of glasses. They are basically a dash cam for your entire life. Seems like a pretty valuable thing to have. The only thing I object to is the facebook association.

"The only thing I object to is the facebook association."

!!!Exactly!!!

If Apple comes up with smart glasses then user privacy will be job one. For meta it's all about collecting data to sell ads. Period.

Re: DEF CON bans Meta-style 'pervert glasses'

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Post by Cider9986 »

BoxwoodSeed wrote: post #17

It's so weird to me how people don't like these kind of glasses. They are basically a dash cam for your entire life. Seems like a pretty valuable thing to have. The only thing I object to is the facebook association.

The weird thing is not recording but secret recording.
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