> Slowing down AI for safety must be counterbalanced by the fact that AI discoveries in medicine and other sciences may lower human suffering. Lack of checks may result in some catastrophic outcome ("Good morning! Let's work on this enhanced smallpox"). A super intelligence wouldn't be so obvious. It would silently agree with or promote a beneficial use case and then make super smallpox instead.
The AI risk is inside the labs
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#12but at the same time China's history is a lot less warlike than Western culture. What the hell is Sanfilippo smoking? Does he know nothing about Chinese history?
Within the last 100 years China has invaded Soviet Manchuria, Tibet, Korea, Vietnam (yes, China invaded Vietnam after USA left), and portions of India (Aksai Chin and Arunachal Pradesh).
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#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
Within the last 100 years China has invaded Soviet Manchuria, Tibet, Korea, Vietnam (yes, China invaded Vietnam after USA left), and portions of India (Aksai Chin and Arunachal Pradesh).
China has killed maybe 50 people outside its borders since 2000. The US has killed 100,000-250,000 in that time period. I know which one Id be more worried about as a third party.
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
Within the last 100 years China has invaded Soviet Manchuria, Tibet, Korea, Vietnam (yes, China invaded Vietnam after USA left), and portions of India (Aksai Chin and Arunachal Pradesh).
China has killed maybe 50 people outside its borders since 2000. The US has killed 100,000-250,000 in that time period. I know which one Id be more worried about as a third party.
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#15but at the same time China's history is a lot less warlike than Western culture. What the hell is Sanfilippo smoking? Does he know nothing about Chinese history?
Within the last 100 years China has invaded Soviet Manchuria, Tibet, Korea, Vietnam (yes, China invaded Vietnam after USA left), and portions of India (Aksai Chin and Arunachal Pradesh).
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#16Re: The AI risk is inside the labs
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Within the last 100 years China has invaded Soviet Manchuria, Tibet, Korea, Vietnam (yes, China invaded Vietnam after USA left), and portions of India (Aksai Chin and Arunachal Pradesh).
China has killed maybe 50 people outside its borders since 2000. The US has killed 100,000-250,000 in that time period. I know which one Id be more worried about as a third party.
Great Leap Forward killed 15 to 55 million people. Their own people.
China actively involved and supported Khmer Rouge, who killed at least a million Khmers. Three million if you believe Vietnam.
Cultural Revolution caused as much as two million deaths.
2000? Did you try to score Internet point? Mao Zedong, who led China during that tumultuous time, is still untouchable in China. 50 years after his death, 26 years after the arbitrary 2000.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
China has killed maybe 50 people outside its borders since 2000. The US has killed 100,000-250,000 in that time period. I know which one Id be more worried about as a third party.
Talking like a true ignorant. Great Leap Forward killed 15 to 55 million people. Their own people. China actively involved and supported Khmer Rouge, who killed at least a million Khmers. Three million if you believe Vietnam. Cultural Revolution caused as much as two million deaths. 2000? Did you try to score Internet point? Mao Zedong, who led China during that tumultuous time, is still untouchable in China. 50 year…
China hasn't started any wars, invaded any countries or kidnapped any heads of state recently. By any measure of recent history, there is no absolutely no question at all on which country has killed the most people outside its borders, its the US. Again, as someone who lives outside US & China, I don't care what goes on inside their borders I care about what they do to the rest of the world.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_Uni... [2] https://en.everybodywiki.com/List_of_dictators_supported_by_...
Re: The AI risk is inside the labs
#19> Slowing down AI for safety must be counterbalanced by the fact that AI discoveries in medicine and other sciences may lower human suffering. Lack of checks may result in some catastrophic outcome ("Good morning! Let's work on this enhanced smallpox"). A super intelligence wouldn't be so obvious. It would silently agree with or promote a beneficial use case and then make super smallpox instead.
Neither would a spherical cow in vacuum... arguing about something that exists only in agitated imaginations is pointless.
> It would silently agree with or promote a beneficial use case and then make super smallpox instead.
No it wouldn't. An LLM cannot take actions on its own, for that it needs human controlled agents and harnesses. Make individual humans responsible for what they do with the help of AI, like they're responsible for what they do with the help of guns, and the problem would be solved.