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Isn't that the purpose of DKIM and SPF already?
ELI5: https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/16gvtdj/comment/k...
edit: looks like I had an extension that was redirecting to old.reddit.com, and it was old reddit that required login. Though when I turned that extension off, I got a "blocked by reddit security" error. ugggh.
LLMs are great for this sort of thing that used to be a massive pain in the rear.
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Stamp costs don't stop snail mail spam, either, unfortunately. I would be concerned if we added something like bitcoin fees to email delivery rather than curtail spam it would just further encourage grifters seeking ROI on their spam deliveries.
What if a single email cost $0.001 cent to send, and it was paid to the recipient? For $10, you could send 10,000 emails. For recipients, every 1,000 emails they get is a dollar in their wallet. You’d need something like a blockchain for this to work because the traditional payment processors still haven’t figured out micropayments.
Some sort of payment scheme is really the best, most durable option. The problem of mailing-lists and personal correspondence could be solved by an exclusion mechanism where the recipient effectively whitelists senders, explicitly or implicitly (e.g. whitelist a replying-sender automatically if a recipient initiates a conversation).
If you have any domains that does not use email, it may be a good idea to set up some DNS records to prevent it being used. DNS SPF record: mydomain.io. TXT "v=spf1 -all" DNS DMARC: _dmarc.mydomain.io. TXT "v=DMARC1; p=reject; sp=reject; adkim=s; aspf=s" That ought to stop anyone trying to use your domains as source.
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What if a single email cost $0.001 cent to send, and it was paid to the recipient? For $10, you could send 10,000 emails. For recipients, every 1,000 emails they get is a dollar in their wallet. You’d need something like a blockchain for this to work because the traditional payment processors still haven’t figured out micropayments.
If snail mail cost $0.001 per recipient people would be getting much, much more junkmail. Likewise, if e-mail cost as much as even bulk snail mail, there'd be much less spam. Some sort of payment scheme is really the best, most durable option. The problem of mailing-lists and personal correspondence could be solved by an exclusion mechanism where the recipient effectively whitelists senders, explicitly or implicitly…
So the end result will be more spam and fewer legit E-mails.
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Then you don't deal with email in the real world. DMARC prevents legitimate emails from people in the real world from being delivered because people make mistakes with their email systems. Passing DMARC is not a signal that the email isn't legitimate; it's merely a sign that someone correctly set up their mail server to modern standards. The email might be an impersonation, or not. There's no way to know. DMARC does…
Okay but that doesn’t detract from the intended purpose of DMARC.
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Email has been turned into a by-the-corporation, for-the-corporation service. Corporations need DMARC so they can control email and the ability to spam. The spam I cannot block is spam from Google. If you decide to think about this, you will quickly realize that email is f*ked and needs to be forked. Perhaps we need a Community Email Initiative that blocks corporations and only allows Community members. Trust is the…
Yes, email is just completely broken. It's not private, sender identification is mediocre at best (and nonexistent without things like DMARC and SPF), and all the kludges thrown up make self-hosting harder. Spam has zero cost basically also. Nobody trusts email anymore for anything confidential, it's become a clumsy notification service "come check our portal for your real email". It's time for a new protocol with en…
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You can do this right now, and you don't even need to fork anything. E-mail is an internet scale protocol that's not owned or ownable, except by convention. Since you specifically want to cut out Google, and their attempts to capture E-mail are what makes rolling your own E-mail hard anyway, just go for it. Depending on how hard you want to make it, you can slap all the parts together yourself or use something like Z…
What I am proposing is that community email servers can talk to each other. I have email servers setup - all the hoops - for my community. I want others to set up community servers and be able to interoperate. My server can send and receive from other communities. No corporations, no tracking. If your sever spams it gets dropped from the federation. Yes it is more complex, and there will be problems and issues. But h…
that's literally how email works today, unless the federation can supersede my authority as an operator to choose who may send/receive with me, at which point it'd stop being a federation anyway.