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Re: Donate to GrapheneOS

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Post by Itoldmyselfso »

dreamcompiler wrote: post #56
thrownawaysz wrote: post #34

I always found it funny that the first step of leaving the Google smartphone ecosystem is to buy a Google phone

Same here. This situation is so mind-bogglingly ridiculous that I don't know how anybody takes GrapheneOS seriously. I mean, let's say I wanted to buy a big airplane but I don't like Boeing. Airbus looks pretty good and they invite me to their factory to pick out a plane. But then they insist I fly to their factory on a Boeing plane. I'd assume they were joking, and then they say "Really, we're serious." No Airbus fo…

You can always buy an used Pixel. GOS only supports phones with hardware that they deem secure enough, and Google is currently the only manufacturer that makes phones that match their requirements[1], with upcoming Motorola phones that also support or even come with GOS installed coming out next year. I find this point so obvious that I can't understand people making comments like "can't take them seriously": you make security/privacy OS, having insecure hardware that compromises the whole project would simply not make any sense. Ask other manufacturers to do better.

1: https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices

Re: Donate to GrapheneOS

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Post by Itoldmyselfso »

bluebarbet wrote: post #47
gertop wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> An alternative to the Android-iOS duopoly that involves futzing with cables and command lines is never going to go mainstream All you need to install graphene is a web browser and USB cable. > By contrast, a vertically integrated FOSS(ish) hardware-software stack might eventually get to 5% market share, like desktop Linux Those exists. They've never gained traction. If you think graphene is too much tinkering, you'…

>All you need to install graphene is a web browser and USB cable. Outside a section of the Western middle class, ordinary people in 2026 only own one computer and it's in their pocket.

You can install GOS via another Android phone...

Re: Donate to GrapheneOS

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Post by bluebarbet »

Itoldmyselfso wrote: post #63
bluebarbet wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>All you need to install graphene is a web browser and USB cable. Outside a section of the Western middle class, ordinary people in 2026 only own one computer and it's in their pocket.

You can install GOS via another Android phone...

Still too complicated for just about anyone except the kind of people who frequent this forum.

Re: Donate to GrapheneOS

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Post by wizzwizz4 »

nvme0n1p1 wrote: post #29
wizzwizz4 wrote: post #16

They start their list with "GitHub Sponsors (credit card)", then list five cryptocurrencies (Bitcoin, Monero, Zcash, Ethereum, Cardano, Litecoin), two of which have "We aren't looking for donations of tokens, only Ethereum [resp. Cardano] itself." Then Wise Quick Pay, then Local Bank Transfer (providing the Wise bank details for Belgium, UK, US, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Hungary, and Turkey), then PayPal (in CA…

Maybe they're listing in increasing order of payment processor fees?

Can't be, because bank transfers are free in much of the world, and cryptocurrencies all(?) have a transaction fee.

Re: Donate to GrapheneOS

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Post by doug-moen »

jitix wrote: post #28
dvh wrote: post #4

Why not sell phones?

They could partner with Fairphone and each can bring their complementary competencies.

You are asking if a partnership with Fairphone would bring in revenue for GrapheneOS.

Fairphone would need to design a new phone with hardware that meets the security requirements of GrapheneOS, which is what Motorola is doing in the announced partnership. There is the development cost, and then the new phone hardware would be more expensive than the Fairphone 6. For Fairphone, there is the question of whether the cost of developing this new phone will be recovered in sales of this more expensive phone.

Would Fairphone give GrapheneOS a big enough share of the profits to fund the port of GrapheneOS to this new hardware and pay for the share of the costs of the monthly software updates? Otherwise it wouldn't reduce GrapheneOS's need to fundraise via donations, which is the subject of this thread.

I don't know if Motorola is offering any cash to GrapheneOS, but they are a famous enough manufacturer that the partnership will raise the profile of GrapheneOS and help them be more successful. By contrast, I'm not sure how many people have heard of Fairphone but have not heard of GrapheneOS. The only reason I've heard of either project is through tech social media. Retail outlets in my area don't sell Fairphone and local mobile operators don't offer Fairphone hardware. But these guys do offer Motorola.

In summary, I'm not sure a Fairphone GrapheneOS partnership makes financial sense for either project, even if it sounds great from a tech nerd perspective.

Re: Donate to GrapheneOS

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Post by grepex »

mschild wrote: post #25
fullstop wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a Pixel 7 Pro and I've been considering reflashing with GrapheneOS. I bought a Garmin watch which does tap-to-pay to deal with the loss of that feature. How is the camera on GrapheneOS compared to the stock Pixel 10? Do your banking apps work without playing cat-and-mouse games?

Default camera app is decent and has imo all the basic necessities. You could obviously install the Google camera app and use that if you're after the software features like AI enhancement etc. Got 3 banking apps (Europe) and they work without a hitch or complaint since installing over 3 years ago. I still use physical cards though so tap-to-pay is a no but I was never interested in that.

What I've seen many people do is install the Google Camera app and turn off network permissions for the application so it cannot send any data to Google.

Re: Donate to GrapheneOS

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Post by canada_dry »

notRobot wrote: post #51
canada_dry wrote: post #46

Here's hoping Pixel releases a flip phone 11 and Graphene support follows. The Motorola razr has crease issues that they seem to want to ignore and Samsung has locked down their phones so root is impractical.

> Motorola razr has crease issues that they seem to want to ignore Details please?

The razr forum on reddit has some examples.

It doesn't seem extremely common, but the reports are for phones that are relatively new - not even two years of use.

Re: Donate to GrapheneOS

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Post by prism56 »

I donate £10 a month to a rotating set of causes and Graphene OS is one. However they did recently say they have plenty of funding and need to start spending it. Ive tried and tried but I can't find the x post now

Re: Donate to GrapheneOS

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Post by mendelmaleh »

anonymousiam wrote: post #60
imzadi wrote: post #6

I got a Pixel 10 during prime day and installed GrapheneOS with Cape for the provider. So far, it's been mostly great. The only setback, for me, is the lack of support for tap to pay. I haven't been able to get any wallet app to work. I keep my iphone with minimal service mainly to still have tap to pay and do facetime with my book club.

I got a new Pixel 10 Pro a few months ago and immediately installed GrapheneOS. It's all been good, but I can no longer use Strava on that phone and I'm looking for a Strava replacement. As far as tap-to-pay goes, I still carry around a few credit cards with RFID chips, which I trust more than any mobile payment method.

I used to use OpenTracks to record, then upload to Strava API with an app called HTTP Shortcuts. But now Strava wants me to pay to use their API lol.
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