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Re: Delayed Gratification – Proud to Be 'Last to Breaking News'

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Post by corndoge »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #64
openasocket wrote: post #51

One thing that has really frustrated me with "mainstream media" in the last few years is that the level of effort being put into journalism seems to be on decline. I feel like half of the news articles are just a collection of quotes from officials or politicians in public statements, being regurgitated without any additional effort. Outrageous claims are just taken at face value, or at best just put alongside quotes…

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I mean, people did try to discuss it. YouTube and Facebook actually deleted content discussing it, in possibly the most blatant act of political censorship in recent memory in this country, and barely anyone knows that.

Not that the US government has any credibility left after current admin, but the statements in here are factual, they really did take down youtube videos that were speculating about lab leak. I saw it happen.

https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/google-admi...

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Post by jrmg »

something98 wrote: post #72

Similar to the longer cycle times, I'm curious if there is the equivalent for HN. I like this site, https://www.daemonology.net/hn-daily/ , but it's once-per-day. I'd at least like once-per-week.

You’re in luck!

https://buttondown.com/hacker-newsletter/archive/

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Post by smoe »

munk-a wrote: post #61

It turns out there are a few stories that are important to be immediately aware of (declarations of war, local events like service outages or celebration - and only if they're planned with short notice). Most of the rest of the news is important for the purpose of holding people to account but outside the influence of regular people. We can live in a society where a massive scandal happens and it takes two months for…

15 years after making the decision, while working for a major news outlet, to no longer read “the news,” I can pretty confidently say: if something is important enough for you to know, it will reach you eventually anyway.

Consuming news has little to do with being informed. Quite the opposite, at times.

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Post by tomhow »

Previously:

Delayed Gratification – The Slow Journalism Magazine - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32222831 - July 2022 (16 comments)

Delayed Gratification: A Slow Journalism Magazine - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22200573 - Jan 2020 (23 comments)

Re: Delayed Gratification – Proud to Be 'Last to Breaking News'

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Post by cruffle_duffle »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #64
openasocket wrote: post #51

One thing that has really frustrated me with "mainstream media" in the last few years is that the level of effort being put into journalism seems to be on decline. I feel like half of the news articles are just a collection of quotes from officials or politicians in public statements, being regurgitated without any additional effort. Outrageous claims are just taken at face value, or at best just put alongside quotes…

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That whole timespan… the absolute nonsense the “trusted media” and their “experts” were pushing with nary a single trace of critical thinking absolutely boggles the mind. How about PCR test results, “opening dates”, death counts, the almost intentional mixing of terms like IFR vs CFR, etc. the list goes on and on and on.

The media is absolutely just state propaganda.

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Post by jrmg »

ChrisArchitect wrote: post #21

highlighting this as 'slow journalism' is a bit odd - it's a magazine, there are lots of them, quarterly etc. The slowness is a given, the delay is the feature.

This magazine only covers stories that are at least three months old.

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Post by cruffle_duffle »

parpfish wrote: post #58
foobar_______ wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. The 24 hour news and social media with our brightest phds learning to drain all attention from you have broken and radicalized our society.

our brightest phds are attacking attention from all fronts (ads, social media, news), but the news one in particular is particularly insidious because for years you were told that watching the news made you a good, responsible person. but back then the news was just one or two 30minute blocks on TV and the newspaper. People that get sucked into social media srolling for hours know that they're not doing something goo…

“ but back then the news was just one or two 30minute blocks on TV and the newspaper.”

There was all kinds of quasi-serious news-adjacent crap like 60 minutes, 48 hours, etc. The big difference was none if it was data driven and backed by algorithms that are constantly tuned for max engagement.

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Post by BrenBarn »

munk-a wrote: post #61

It turns out there are a few stories that are important to be immediately aware of (declarations of war, local events like service outages or celebration - and only if they're planned with short notice). Most of the rest of the news is important for the purpose of holding people to account but outside the influence of regular people. We can live in a society where a massive scandal happens and it takes two months for…

The other thing is that I find a fair number of "news" stories these days are basically one or two small details about the latest update on some ongoing situation, followed by a long summary of what happened before. So most of the news is already old.
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