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Over 150k Flights: Airlines Just Flew the Busiest Day in Recorded History

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Re: Over 150k Flights: Airlines Just Flew the Busiest Day in Recorded History

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This feels like one of those cases where it’s safe to say “history” instead of “recorded history.”

Even history is not safe if you consider the entire universe.

Technically history only refers to the parts of the past for which we have written records.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd like to see an attempt at modern air cruises on giant zeppelins.

Then the plane takes longer than the train!

A price I’m more than willing to pay to for my Final Fantasy IX airship

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Yes let's continue burning fuel. It's fine.

I guess if you are really serious about saving the planet from airplanes, you could start a network of similar-feeling folks and begin randomly bombing enough flights to terrify the world into not flying. Give yourself an edgy name, like the Children of Kali, to make it stick. Honestly, if you think the stakes are that high then you implicate yourself with anything but fully committed action. Anything less, and you j…

I recently read Days of Rage about the various groups committing political violence during the 60s and 70s. Weatherman, Black Panthers, Black Liberation Army, etc.

I don't know if there was really a 'message' more than just reporting what 'happened'. But, I have to say I came away with the idea that that kind of political violence is futile. Non-violent political action seemed to have MUCH more beneficial action than any bomb. (of course it wasn't as clear-cut between non-violent groups and revolutionary groups at the time)

Maybe thats only because I just read the ONE book.

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Yes let's continue burning fuel. It's fine.

Here is a good list of 'fuel per seat (in mpg)' numbers for various airplane configurations and flight durations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_economy_in_aircraft#Examp... The total average across the industry in 2018 was between 67 and 81 mpg. Modern planes are in the 100-120mpg range.

The issue is that we are enabling people to travel long distances too cheaply.

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With numbers like that I guess they have no reason to make flights more comfortable or convenient. I just did a cross country flight and back 2 weeks ago and I'm still recovering from it. I really hate flying now.

The real cost of air travel continues to go down as customers really only discriminate on price. Airlines have tried before to compete on other facets but everything failed. The best you can do is look at specific carriers, and more importantly specifically what aircraft you'll be flying on. A cross country flight in economy is going to be more comfortable in a Delta A220 than a United 737 Max. However, because of hu…

Maybe, I don't know. Sprit Airlines closing up abruptly like it did may refute your premise. They were the cheapest of the cheap, people hated them and now they are gone.

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd like to see an attempt at modern air cruises on giant zeppelins.

Then the plane takes longer than the train!

Yeah this would be more making the airship part of the experience rather than a means to an end.

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Flying is a bit unique in that there aren't really viable alternatives. It also accounts for a fairly small portion of emissions. Land transport (cars and trucks), power generation, and heating are where the big wins exist with viable alternatives.

What?? In Europe there are lots of viable alternatives. Same as Asia!!

For short trips. Most plane trips are at a distance where there isn't a viable alternative. Sure there are some nice trains that can handle the more common trips, but airplanes really shine for much longer trips.

Re: Over 150k Flights: Airlines Just Flew the Busiest Day in Recorded History

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post #4

Yes let's continue burning fuel. It's fine.

I think the way airline tickets are priced is a big factor, and needs to change.

It is often cheaper to take a connecting flight to an airport and flying from there than to start from that airport. That disincentivises taking a low-carbon-emission train to the airport and experiencing more of (and spending more in) the city near the airport than just its airport.

Often, for longer flights, the more stops, the cheaper the total ticket gets. Planes consume more fuel at take-off and landing, making the the carbon footprint increase with these cheaper tickets. And the more you fly, the more points you get that could pay for more flights.

It should be the other way around: air-travel carbon tax should be progressive. You should pay more each time if you fly more often. That would reduce the number of flights in total while still allowing everyone to take that "trip of a life-time".

Re: Over 150k Flights: Airlines Just Flew the Busiest Day in Recorded History

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here is a good list of 'fuel per seat (in mpg)' numbers for various airplane configurations and flight durations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_economy_in_aircraft#Examp... The total average across the industry in 2018 was between 67 and 81 mpg. Modern planes are in the 100-120mpg range.

The issue is that we are enabling people to travel long distances too cheaply.

Yes, let's make things more expensive, cause we experts know best. That poor guy that needs to attend a family funeral, he's a loser that should stay home. Inflation for the Win!
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