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Why a $154B CEO just endorsed stripping most Americans of voting rights

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Re: Why a $154B CEO just endorsed stripping most Americans of voting rights

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What is inherently unreasonable about the idea that only people who pay into the system get a say in how the system operates? The constitution still guarantees fundamental human rights. Another idea - everyone is eligible to vote for the presidency and House of Representatives, but only net taxpayers can vote for the Senate. The idea that there should be some kind of checks and balances on spending taxpayer money, wh…

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed”

Re: Why a $154B CEO just endorsed stripping most Americans of voting rights

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Fascinating to see how many tech people, as soon as they get rich, turn to extreme. Name them all - they mostly all are very active on X, and each new tweet pushes the limits of what was previously deemed unacceptable. I'm rich, so my opinion must be more important, right?

Ed Zitron had a great quote that's relevant to this.

> [they] have filled their skulls with a sense of moral and intellectual superiority - that because they have succeeded at work, they understand society better than others, and can only perceive the world through that lens of privilege

Re: Why a $154B CEO just endorsed stripping most Americans of voting rights

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The very rich have forgotten the lessons of the past.

They have forgotten that they also live in the very same physical world as the poor. Most of them don't even live that far from the poor.

Perhaps they don't consider the implications that nobody can fight a mob.

If they were as smart as they want people to think, they would think about these things and perhaps shut up (at least in public!) about making things worse for the poor.

Re: Why a $154B CEO just endorsed stripping most Americans of voting rights

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Look, I'm not even a millionaire, and I will never be a billionaire, but in an alternate reality in which I'm a centibillionaire, one of my chief aims would be to limit the political say of the electorate as much as possible, because their voting rights would be one of the biggest threats to my everything.

Moreover, everyone who gains any amount of power becomes protective of it.

That's basic human nature. As a conservative, I under this.

Re: Why a $154B CEO just endorsed stripping most Americans of voting rights

#68
I am not against idea of only net tax payers getting single vote. Say if you use government services or receive money such as grant that is counted against your total. If you own part of corporation that gets such support that is counted again. If you or your corporation gets tax deductions or relief those are counted as double.

Total everything up and if you are net payer you get to vote. If not no vote for you.

Re: Why a $154B CEO just endorsed stripping most Americans of voting rights

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How much more evidence do we need that there is in fact a class war going on and the rich are winning?

The biggest con they ever pulled off is making working class people (and yes, that includes you, fellow tech workers!) hate unions.

Unions are the only way workers can fight back - they may be able to tell individuals what to do, but they can't control the collective.

This is also why they're so feverishly trying to build AI - they finally want to have workers that have no way of organizing.

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